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Hi,I'm new to this forum, and I'm a very new Java programmer, but, I was just wondering why those who post don't usually offer Duke Dollars...I'm offering 10 duke dollars to the person who, in my opinion, can answer this question best... :)-hotCoder

[281 byte] By [hotCodera] at [2007-10-3 2:40:20]

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# 1

why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

most of the time noobs are so ignorant that they don't know how to award dukes. They can barely manage proper questions.

dukes are worthless, anyway. at one time you could redeem them for something. they also used to be a measure of who answered questions here. now i don't think anyone even thinks about them.

they matter on other forums. on the hibernate.org forum you can't ask questions unless you have their equivalent of dukes. asking a question costs you one, so if you plan to ask a lot of questions you have to be able to replenish your supply by offering knowledge back.

duffymoa at 2007-7-14 19:38:42 >

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# 2

Because motorcylces don't have ashtrays.

floundera at 2007-7-14 19:38:42 >

# 3

looking at your posting history i'll be surprised if you ever manage to award any dukes.%

duffymoa at 2007-7-14 19:38:42 >

# 4

what do you mean, "looking at your posting history i'll be surprised if you ever manage to award any dukes."? I could award 10 to you, but since you come off with a remark like that, i dunno.

hotCodera at 2007-7-14 19:38:42 >

# 5

> what do you mean, "looking at your posting history> i'll be surprised if you ever manage to award any> dukes."? I could award 10 to you, but since you come> off with a remark like that, i dunno.Unbreak my heart.%

duffymoa at 2007-7-14 19:38:42 >

# 6

> > what do you mean, "looking at your posting history

> > i'll be surprised if you ever manage to award any

> > dukes."? I could award 10 to you, but since you

> come

> > off with a remark like that, i dunno.

> Unbreak my heart.

> %

*sniff*

aniseeda at 2007-7-14 19:38:42 >

# 7

> dukes are worthless, anyway. at one time you could

> redeem them for something. they also used to be a

> measure of who answered questions here. now i don't

> think anyone even thinks about them.

I got confirmation that the Duke Dollar program (with an award for the top earner) is supposedly still on. That was before I told them about possible fraud, though.

> they matter on other forums. on the hibernate.org

> forum you can't ask questions unless you have their

> equivalent of dukes. asking a question costs you

> one, so if you plan to ask a lot of questions you

> have to be able to replenish your supply by offering

> knowledge back.

Not easy for a beginner.But then, I don't think I asked more than maybe 10 questions.

CeciNEstPasUnProgrammeura at 2007-7-14 19:38:43 >

# 8

That user-pays approach is not a bad idea although I don't know about a duke per question (wouldnt' affect me as I think I'm still in single figures on questions). Maybe posters could be debited every time they fail to RTFM? or provide stack traces that match the source code? or provide 'non-working' source code that doesn't compile?

ejpa at 2007-7-14 19:38:43 >

# 9

> That user-pays approach is not a bad idea although I

> don't know about a duke per question (wouldnt' affect

> me as I think I'm still in single figures on

> questions). Maybe posters could be debited every time

> they fail to RTFM? or provide stack traces that match

> the source code? or provide 'non-working' source code

> that doesn't compile?

That wouldn't leave much. :)

CeciNEstPasUnProgrammeura at 2007-7-14 19:38:43 >

# 10

No, and I left out some, like restating the question (or the answer) after the answer has already been provided. Maybe summary execution would be better in those cases though.

ejpa at 2007-7-14 19:38:43 >

# 11

> No, and I left out some, like restating the question

> (or the answer) after the answer has already been

> provided. Maybe summary execution would be better in

> those cases though.

What about those posting off-topic questions, like the HTML/Tomcat tutorial that was revived earlier? And the zombie conjurers themselves, of course. If we filter all those things, there'll probably be just two or three questions a week left. :p

Let's just say there are more and less interesting re-runs.

CeciNEstPasUnProgrammeura at 2007-7-14 19:38:43 >

# 12

How about just awarding a Duke for a relevant question that hasn't been answered 1000 times?

Wouldn't break the bank.

We need to rank these things:

1. Spam, restating the question, restating the answer, reviving old threads, stating wrong answer after right answer provided: summary execution

2. non-compiling or unformatted source code, or irrelevant stack trace, or failure to locate offending line from own stack trace: 10 Dukes DR

3. Contact me off list, or u snd me codes: 8 Dukes DR

4. Question that's been answered > 100 times: 5 Dukes DR

5. Wrong forum or thread hijacking or reviving thread > 3 months old for any reason whatsoever: 5 Dukes DR

6. Unintelligible question, or failure to understand clear answer, or providing unclear or incorrect answer: 4 Dukes DR

7. Failure to read Javadoc after referral: 3 Dukes DR

8. Irrelevance: 2 Dukes DR for first offence, double penalty for each continuation.

9. Failure to try reasonable suggestion: 1 Duke DR

10. Acceptable question: free.

11. Relevant question or suggestion or referral: 1 Duke CR

12. Correct solution: 2-10 Dukes CR, or at discretion of OP as at present

13. Interesting new question: 10 Dukes CR

14. Interesting new correct solution: 20 Dukes CR

ejpa at 2007-7-14 19:38:43 >

# 13

Duke giveaways have gone down hill. It was much better when you could blow all your dukes on one silly thread.

mlka at 2007-7-14 19:38:43 >

# 14

> Hi,

> I'm new to this forum, and I'm a very new Java

> programmer, but, I was just wondering why those who

> post don't usually offer Duke Dollars...

Apart from not knowing how to offer them... most people that can actually help you with a question don't care about Dukes; they are in it for the sharing of knowledge and the gratification of helping someone out. I think most question-posters quickly notice that and realize that offering Dukes at best draws out more irrelevant "answers" so it may even be counter-productive.

> I'm offering 10 duke dollars

Keep them - I just use 'em to light cigars with anyway ;-)

Lokoa at 2007-7-14 19:38:43 >

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