Some help for someone entirely new?

well ya ive been looking at tutorials and reading java books but nothing really sinks in anyone have any ideas what i sould do to start like what type of things you did when u start or w\e i would really be happy thanks
[226 byte] By [DKbota] at [2007-10-2 21:22:41]
# 1

well for me it wont sink in if you dont have the prerequisites. like c++, object programming, classes. if you dont know these things you will have a hard time understanding java. by the way its only my 5 day in java but because i know c++, object programming, classes and stuffs it realy did made a difference in speed of learning.

tefiria at 2007-7-14 0:33:06 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 2
so i sud learn c++ first or something to get the basics?
DKbota at 2007-7-14 0:33:06 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 3

NO you dont have to.

What you should learn is the basics of Object Oriantation. Better to find a tutorial or book that focuses on that aspect insted of just java.

Most probably the tutorials/books that you have been using are written assuming that the reader knows about those consepts.

If you can find "Java How To Program by Deitel & Deitel" that a very good book for a complete beginner with no programming experiance

LRMKa at 2007-7-14 0:33:06 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 4

also if you really dont have any programming experience, try first Concepts of Programming Languages, to get you started with functions, procedures..variables, etc...DONT focus on the programming language, focus on HOW to learn a programming language. IF you've already learned HOW to study a programming language, then you can easily learn any language c",)

You just have to know it's Input/Output, it's conditional loops, etc...as any other programmer in this forum says...YOU have to read and learn. GoodLuck =)

tuamana at 2007-7-14 0:33:06 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 5
Do NOT learn C++ first.Invent a hobby project and work on that. Start with the very simplest version and look up things in tutorials as you need them. Develop test-driven from the start.Message was edited by: Loko
Lokoa at 2007-7-14 0:33:06 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 6

> Do NOT learn C++ first.

> Invent a hobby project and work on that. Start with

> the very simplest version and look up things in

> tutorials as you need them. Develop test-driven from

> the start.

>

> Message was edited by:

> Loko

perfect advice. you've heard the phrase "necessity is the mother of invention"? here it is in action. and test-driven development is the only way to go these days!

georgemca at 2007-7-14 0:33:06 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...