need IDE available (Urgent)
[166 byte] By [SpiritDeva] at [2007-10-2 21:22:22] 
I'm using console for compiling and runningcan anyone suggest some location from where i can get GUI> IDE to interact with programs more efficiently
www.netbeans.orgBut be prepared. Have a powerfull pc or you will need to be a monk in patience, as i tring to be ; )
Horadranina at 2007-7-14 0:32:38 >
isnt there any other IDE which can be more efficient and light as java itself to support GUI as many programs as such needs too much processing time of processor and memory and in those cases if IDE itself will consume resources then situation can worst
so I need some reliable IDE at least better than console for various debuggings
SpiritDeva at 2007-7-14 0:32:38 >
Uhmmm the only other IDE i heard is Eclipse (i never serched about java IDEs, sorry ), but i never used and i don't know if is more (or less) resource cosuming.
Horadranina at 2007-7-14 0:32:38 >
[url= http://netbeans.org]Netbeans[/url][url= http://developers.sun.com/prodtech/javatools/jscreator/]Sun Studio Creator[/url][url= http://www.eclipse.org/]Eclipse[/url]Those are free.There are many others that cost $$$.Google to find more.JJ
Java_Jaya at 2007-7-14 0:32:38 >
> I'm using console for compiling and runningexcellent. Best way to do it.> can anyone suggest some location from where i can get> GUI> IDE to interact with programs more efficientlyThere isn't. The commandline is the best way to work.
jwentinga at 2007-7-14 0:32:38 >
> [url=http://netbeans.org]Netbeans[/url]
> [url=http://developers.sun.com/prodtech/javatools/jscr
> eator/]Sun Studio Creator[/url]
> [url=http://www.eclipse.org/]Eclipse[/url]
>
> Those are free.
> There are many others that cost $$$.
> Google to find more.
>
> JJ
There is also a free edition of JBuilder.
Kaj
kajbja at 2007-7-14 0:32:38 >
> The commandline is the best way to work.Including the invocation of goold old ant.
BIJ001a at 2007-7-14 0:32:38 >
command line -> the bestalso try JCreator
tuamana at 2007-7-14 0:32:38 >
> isnt there any other IDE which can be more efficient
> and light as java itself to support GUI as many
> programs as such needs too much processing time of
> processor and memory and in those cases if IDE itself
> will consume resources then situation can worst
>
> so I need some reliable IDE at least better than
> console for various debuggings
java is neither light nor efficient. to be honest, all an IDE will do for you at the moment is shield you from some basic debugging skills. carry on with the command-line until you've got a good understanding of both the language and the processes involved in compilation and debugging
georgemca at 2007-7-14 0:32:38 >
try Edit Plusvisit: http://www.editplus.com/ for more info.
tinza at 2007-7-14 0:32:38 >
> java is neither light nor efficient. to be honest,
> all an IDE will do for you at the moment is shield
> you from some basic debugging skills. carry on with
> the command-line until you've got a good
> understanding of both the language and the processes
> involved in compilation and debugging
YEP!!!! IDE's hides so many important things on the core java, on compilation and running classes.
tuamana at 2007-7-14 0:32:38 >
eclipse is very resource intensive. on my pc it eats a minimum of 100M of memory. I wouldn't use it outside of the office...
newbie85a at 2007-7-14 0:32:38 >
> eclipse is very resource intensive. on my pc it eats> a minimum of 100M of memory. I wouldn't use it> outside of the office...You might have installed too many plugins.
Aleena at 2007-7-14 0:32:38 >
> > There is also a free edition of JBuilder.> > KajTrue.. I was too lazy to keep typing on my small keyboard of my laptop.LOLJJ
Java_Jaya at 2007-7-14 0:32:38 >
> > java is neither light nor efficient. to be
> honest,
> > all an IDE will do for you at the moment is shield
> > you from some basic debugging skills. carry on
> with
> > the command-line until you've got a good
> > understanding of both the language and the
> processes
> > involved in compilation and debugging
>
> YEP!!!! IDE's hides so many important things on the
> core java, on compilation and running classes.
While I agree with you in principle, I've found that the navigation abilities of ide's most helpful. I can easily find method definitions, etc, source files for other classes, javadocs, and the list goes on. plus, we all make mistakes, and IDE's point them out when we make them, making it easier to fix them.
As far as code generation goes, I wouldn't use code generated by an IDE, but as far as the navigation capabilities, IDE's make things WAY more convenient.
- Adam
guitar_man_Fa at 2007-7-21 8:02:55 >
I agree with guitar_man. IDE helps a lot avoiding miss type, showing doc, and so.RAD environments is what must be avoided.
Horadranina at 2007-7-21 8:02:55 >
nobody's denying that IDEs are good, but it's a mistake to learn a language by using one, I reckon. how many people still don't understand the classpath, because their IDE took care of it all for them?
georgemca at 2007-7-21 8:02:55 >
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