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When can we expect Java EE 5?

Hi all,Just wondering if anyone has the faintest idea as to when we can expect Java EE 5 to go gold so to speak?Im having to use J2SE at the moment since I need the generics support not currently offered in J2EE.ThanksDan

[256 byte] By [DanRubinoa] at [2007-10-2 8:52:53]

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# 1

at least following 3 Application server has support for EJB3 (and other java EE 5 APIs).GlassFish , Jonas , Jboss .

But i dont think that the final Application server which are based on final Spec release appear before end of 2006.

if you need Java EE 5 features then you can grab GlassFish and try it with netbeans 5 .

but make sure that you get Netbeans 5 for java EE 5.

Kalalia at 2007-7-16 22:56:36 >

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# 2

Thanks for the reply.Im a bit confused though, I use Eclipse 3.1 for my development. Wouldnt this be suitable for developing Java EE 5 code under glassfish?ThanksDan

DanRubinoa at 2007-7-16 22:56:36 >

# 3

About Eclipse i do not know. as you know Eclipse is supported by IBM ,

but there are some J2ee plugins like Myenterprise IDE , M7 ... which bring features for developing j2ee application.

I do not think that they will provide support for java ee 5 before its spec goes final.

Right now , you can get a copy of Netbeans 5 Beta 2 (they are going to release an RC in this week ) you can very easily use glassfish for deployin your ejb 3.0 Stuff.

I think it is good to try Netbeans 5 too . Netbeans become a very enhanced IDE in version 5 and you will find it as productive and useable as Eclipse 3.1 :)

The old day of Netbeans 3.x and 4.x is passed , Try Netbeans 5 and you will find it more stable than your prev IDE

Kalalia at 2007-7-16 22:56:36 >

# 4

> But i dont think that the final Application server which are based on final Spec release >appear before end of 2006.

dont be so pessimistic. :) The plan is that glassfish will be beta in February.

For all news about glassfish, check The Aquarium:

http://blogs.sun.com/theaquarium

Peter

Sun Microsystems

peter_fabiana at 2007-7-16 22:56:36 >

# 5

Good news , will netbeans EE edition goes beta in same time ?i think there will be a final release of glassfish before May.btw last news from java ee 5 spec was that is is under public review .

Kalalia at 2007-7-16 22:56:36 >

# 6

Glassfish plugin for eclipse become available ? , but i prefer Netbeans EE. http://www.eclipse.org/dali/

Kalalia at 2007-7-16 22:56:36 >

# 7

> at least following 3 Application server has support

> for EJB3 (and other java EE 5 APIs).GlassFish , Jonas

> , Jboss .

> But i dont think that the final Application server

> which are based on final Spec release appear before

> end of 2006.

> if you need Java EE 5 features then you can grab

> GlassFish and try it with netbeans 5 .

> but make sure that you get Netbeans 5 for java EE 5.

So, at best, one would not expect the final spec to be released until the end of this year? That would probably push any realistic adoption at a company mid way through 2007. Seems a long way off!

- Saish

Saisha at 2007-7-16 22:56:36 >

# 8

dont be so pessimistic. :) The plan is that glassfish will be beta in February.

For all news about glassfish, check The Aquarium:

http://blogs.sun.com/theaquarium

Peter

Sun Microsystems

as he mentioned that GlassFish goes beta in Feb , i think htere will be some releases before year end .

http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=244

JSR 224 is in final draft .

Kalalia at 2007-7-16 22:56:36 >

# 9

@Kalali. Thanks. I actually downloaded GlassFish a couple weeks ago, and have been playing around. Now that I've become hooked with annotations in J2EE 5, I can't wait for actual implementations, say Weblogic or JBoss. My guess is that JBoss will move faster. I'm going to have a tough time convincing anyone at work to switch to GlassFish. :^)

PS: No insult intended to anyone at GlassFish.

Most companies just aren't early adopters.

- Saish

Saisha at 2007-7-16 22:56:36 >

# 10

one thing that i can say :

Sun application server has a very good performance.

Maybe in far past it has not some elegant features and performance , but right now both 8.1 (j2ee 1.4) and GlassFish (java ee 5) are both good and affordable Application servers.

another issue with GlassFish ,if im not mistaken, is that they reduced startup time by using lazy load -i do not remember their expression for this- of java EE services.

it means that it loads java EE services on-demand . i think some one from glassFish can explain more

im sure that there are more with GlassFish .

Kalalia at 2007-7-16 22:56:36 >

# 11

> Glassfish plugin for eclipse become available ? , but> i prefer Netbeans EE.> http://www.eclipse.org/dali/yes, there is an eclipse plugin for glassfish based on Eclipse WTPsee https://glassfishplugins.dev.java.net/Peter

peter_fabiana at 2007-7-16 22:56:36 >

# 12

> as he mentioned that GlassFish goes beta in Feb , i> think htere will be some releases before year end .glassfish will be released definitely earlier then year end.Peter

peter_fabiana at 2007-7-16 22:56:36 >

# 13

Thanks Kalali and Fabian. I await EE 5 with baited breath! :^)- Saish

Saisha at 2007-7-16 22:56:36 >

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