As a novice home computer user what do I need to be running on my system? and what can I delete?
I have Java2Runtime Standard Edition V 1.3.0_01 and I have Java2Runtime SE V1.4.0. and Java Web Start.
Please tell me what I can uninstall or delete and what I need to keep or upgrade.
Thanks
Luke
> As a novice home computer user what do I need to be
> running on my system? and what can I delete?
> I have Java2Runtime Standard Edition V 1.3.0_01 and I
> have Java2Runtime SE V1.4.0. and Java Web Start.
> Please tell me what I can uninstall or delete and what
> I need to keep or upgrade.
> Thanks
> Luke
Hi there,
Well it all depends :-). Are there any Java programs that you are running or need to run @ the moment? If there are you may just want to let things lie. Otherwise see below!
If you're keen to be on the bleeding edge you'd uninstall all of them and install JRE1.5 (with corresponding web start).
I'd personally recommend installing JRE 1.4.2_06 instead (with corresponding web start) if you want to be at the leading, but not bleeding edge :-)
Hope that helps!
Karianna
Delete these, they are old. A trip to Sun's homepage will tell you that there are much newer versions available. Like the other poster said, don't go for 5 yet (i think you can only download JRE5 with the JDK anyway at the mo), as the runtime environment is still buggy. Get the JRE 1.4.2_06, and thats all you need, unless you are going to be a programmer. Make sure to set the plugin details in control panel (if windows), as it won't use the latest JRE unless told explicitly.
HTH
> 1.5 (5.0) works perfectly well...
>
> There's always a small group of people recommending
> you stick with something old just because anything
> newer is new and "therefore" no good.
I normally wouldn't reply to this, but I couldn't resist on this occasion :-). I personally am an upgrade fanatic, often upgrading the minute something comes out! But it's a reality with Java that there are several existing applets and Java Web Start enabled programs that do not work if you use 1.5.0, I'd hate to cause the original poster to not be able to use the common programs currently out there!
Karianna
> 1.5 (5.0) works perfectly well...
>
> There's always a small group of people recommending
> you stick with something old just because anything
> newer is new and "therefore" no good.
OP didn't say he was a developer, rather an internet user. The latest version of the JRE being distributed standalone is 1.4.2_05 (check the Java VM link from Sun's homepage if you don't believe me). Why do you think that is? JDK 5 has been released, but the standalone JRE 5 has not as yet. I have encountered several bugs and odd behaviour using JRE 5 (as distributed with the JDK) on windows XP, that certainly do not exist on the latest release JRE. If you just use the internet, there is little or no point in being an 'early adopter' as very few applets (as will be the only thing OP will probably need the JRE for) will be written with JVM 5 in mind. In fact, applets only appear to work on machines where the client JVM is the same or newer version than the version the applet was compiled under. For this reason, many applets are written using old JDK's so as to maximise their compatibility.
> I normally wouldn't reply to this, but I couldn't
> resist on this occasion :-). I personally am an
> upgrade fanatic, often upgrading the minute something
> comes out! But it's a reality with Java that there
> are several existing applets and Java Web Start
> enabled programs that do not work if you use 1.5.0,
> I'd hate to cause the original poster to not be able
> to use the common programs currently out there!
I'm glad I'm not the only one!
Thanks karianna and java jugs for your help. I am a complete "deer in the headlights so I appreciate your advice".
I downloaded what you suggested.
I did have an original cache which belonged to someone else as I bought a refurb and the store did not dump it. So I left the folders and went in and dumped the files. I hope thats okay. They are still in the trash if it isn't. I did not have anything I wanted in the cache.
The plug-in was set to my Explorer browser so I am not sure what else I have to do with those settings.
Also in Explorer Internet Options my settings are as follows:
JAVA (SUN):
Use Java 2v1.4.2_06 for applet(checked)
MICROSOFT.VM:
Java Console Enabled(un-checked)
Java Logging Enabled(un-checked)
JIT Compiler for Virtual Machine Enabled (Checked)
Thanks again for your help in cleaning things up.
Any further advice on the above is much appreciated thanks again.
Well, just as a general pc related issue, if you bought a refubished pc that was not wiped and rebuilt, then it would definitely be a good idea to do this yourself. If you have copies of all the software that you require then I wouldn't delay in just doing a low-level format and reinstall windows etc. In any case, if your settings still mention the Microsoft VM, then you prob don't have any of the major windows service packs installed (one of which gets rid of all the MS VM stuff I believe), which is definitely a good idea too. In fact, all the critical updates on MS site should be installed on any running windows machine, if permitted.
As far as the plugin settings, I believe the choice for which VM to use on the web is made in the 'advanced' tab, where there is a drp-down menu, that may be set to something like "system default" at the moment (this is the MS VM). You need to select your JRE that you installed, otherwise IE will not realise it's there to be used.
HTH
Thank you again everything is set as you suggested. I have SP1 and SP2 (which I am still somewhat dubious about) installed in fact I am completely up to date. So I guess it still leaves those designations in the advanced options list of Explorer 6. Unless you think different I will just leave them as checked by default?
Thanks,
Earle
> Thank you again everything is set as you suggested. I
> have SP1 and SP2 (which I am still somewhat dubious
> about) installed in fact I am completely up to date.
> So I guess it still leaves those designations in the
> advanced options list of Explorer 6. Unless you
> think different I will just leave them as checked by
> default?
OK, yea leave them unchecked. I am still slightly concerned about the fact that the pc was not formatted etc when you got it, but its clearly up to you if you want to go ahead and do that at this stage.
Thanks,
Incidentally I just chescked my Active X list in Norton systems works and it has a new entry:
Java Plug-in 1.4.2_06 for Netscape Navigator (DLL Helper)
Does this seem odd as I never chose Netscape in the plug-in. It has always been Explorer and as far as can remember I certainly didn't do it at the download. I think I just chose windows from what I remember.
Is this a problem? Or just leave it be?
Thanks Again