Hello

Work your way through the tutorials.

paulcwa at 2007-7-29 12:06:07 >

> Is Java easy to learn?

The Java language itself isn't that hard to learn. Memorizing syntax, keywords, and writing HelloWorld isn't rough at all. But Java takes time to learn as it's more than a language. It's a full-featured platform with lots and lots of API's to learn.

Anyway, to be a great Java developer (in a real-world environment) can be hard and takes time. You'll make a lot of mistakes along the way, etc. But getting started isn't painful at all IMO.

SoulTech2012a at 2007-7-29 12:06:07 >

There are two kinds of people. Those that can program and those that can't.

Find out which you are and give up if you can't. There's no shame in that.

I can't rap, for example.

Once I was asked to tutor a web designer (someone who just knew

dreamweaver) in Java. It became quickly clear that he was the second type of

person. One exercise I gave him was to write code to find the largest int in an

array. He just didn't know how to begin, so I gave him an analogy -- what if

I handed you a stack of quizes with the grade written on the front and asked you

to find the highest grade, how you you do it? He answered, "I would just look

at them and tell you the highest grade." I told him to break that down into

discrete steps. How would he do it. He replied "I -- would -- just -- look -- at --

them -- and -- tell -- you -- the -- highest -- grade". We tacitly agreed to drop

the tutoring.

Hippolytea at 2007-7-29 12:06:07 >

> There are two kinds of people. Those that can program

> and those that can't.

> Find out which you are and give up if you can't.

If you are able to write an algorithm, you're on the first step to learn programming (at least procedural programming).

java_knighta at 2007-7-29 12:06:07 >

> I've seen programs resulting from such thinking...

> Monstrosities like this (in C):

I actually witnessed The Mother of All C Bad Code Pieces. It was written by a trainee we had in our lab. But this is a Java forum so it would be OT ;-)

java_knighta at 2007-7-29 12:06:07 >

"Some years ago I tried to teach computer programming to a girl that continued to state that 3 + 4 is a function."

Got her telephone number?

George123a at 2007-7-29 12:06:07 >

Some people pick programming up more easily than others.

However, writting good, clean, efficient, well designed code is never easy.Once you learn the basic line syntax, and are working as a junior developer,expect a 2+ year learning process to:

Design efficient blocks of code.

design patterns

fundimental UML (communications between architect and you)

Sutlties of (choose one) Swing/awt, JSP, JSF, unit tests, web services

learning when to choose one technology over another.

How to make one technology interact with another technology.

cookepa at 2007-7-29 12:06:07 >