Closures?

Possible reasons:

1) Somebody felt he was getting beat up (i.e., people were disagreeing with him) and reported abuse.

2) Sun don't like threads that actually discuss or debate an issue. They only want threads that ask and answer "how do I do X?" questions.

3) The server that serves this site has evolved intelligence and determined that those threads were not in its best interest.

jverda at 2007-7-28 20:09:02 >

> Most likely they were both deemed unworthy by a rouge

> program that wrote another program to delete them -

> their fate was decided in a micro-second.

a rouge program? Who cares what colour it is? :p

My guess would be someone reported abuse, except that I don't recall any such behaviour there

georgemca at 2007-7-28 20:09:02 >

> or the "can programs replace programmers" thread

The "closures" thread actually had something to do with Java - the "can programs..." thread did not.

tsitha at 2007-7-28 20:09:02 >

> > > Most likely they were both deemed unworthy by a

> > rouge

> > > program that wrote another program to delete

> them

> > -

> > > their fate was decided in a micro-second.

> >

> > a rouge program? Who cares what colour it

> is?

>

>

> Well, mauve has the most RAM.

Dude - that only applies to Databases.

tsitha at 2007-7-28 20:09:02 >

> WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PAGE NUMBERS ON THE BOTTOM OF

> THE TOPIC PAGE? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

That's right - total quality here at Sun Microsystems.

tsitha at 2007-7-28 20:09:02 >

> > > > > Most likely they were both deemed unworthy

> by

> > a

> > > > rouge

> > > > > program that wrote another program to delete

> > > them

> > > > -

> > > > > their fate was decided in a micro-second.

> > > >

> > > > a rouge program? Who cares what colour

> it

> > > is?

> > >

> > >

> > > Well, mauve has the most RAM.

> >

> > Dude - that only applies to Databases.

>

>

> Oh, right.

>

> Well, for programs, fuschia has the most charming

> megahertzes.

word.

tsitha at 2007-7-28 20:09:02 >

But the page numbers at the bottom were my favorite new feature to the forums! This is HORRIBLE!

Djaunla at 2007-7-28 20:09:02 >

> Most likely they were both deemed unworthy by a rouge

> program that wrote another program to delete them -

> their fate was decided in a micro-second.

And we will continue to see this behaviour because it cannot solve its halting problem

snic.snaca at 2007-7-28 20:09:07 >

> > But the page numbers at the bottom were my

> favorite

> > new feature to the forums! This is HORRIBLE!

>

> And by "new feature" you mean "old feature that got

> removed and then put back again after a lot of

> complaining", right?

No, I mean "old feature that got removed and then put back again after a lot of complaining that got removed again".

Alas, cruel fate!

;-)

Djaunla at 2007-7-28 20:09:07 >

> But the page numbers at the bottom were my favorite

> new feature to the forums! This is HORRIBLE!

You should learn not to get use to anything that it actually useful.

jschella at 2007-7-28 20:09:07 >

> So anyone want to guess why the closure thread is

> gone?

It isn't gone, it just scrolled off the first page since it hasn't been posted to recently. See http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5191704

nmgaftera at 2007-7-28 20:09:07 >

> 1) Somebody felt he was getting beat up (i.e., people

> were disagreeing with him) and reported abuse.

>

possible but unlikely.

> 2) Sun don't like threads that actually discuss or

> debate an issue. They only want threads that ask and

> answer "how do I do X?" questions.

>

far more likely. If the opinions voiced don't match the ideas Sun has about closures they'd not want it known far and wide that a lot of people have ideas different from theirs...

They may usually be benevolent but they're still dictators (and that used to be a good thing as it prevented idiotic things from making it into the language, sadly the idiots seem to now be in control given the number of idiotic things making it into the language).

> 3) The server that serves this site has evolved

> intelligence and determined that those threads were

> not in its best interest.

hmm, I find that hard to assume :)

jwentinga at 2007-7-28 20:09:07 >

> > Most likely they were both deemed unworthy by a

> rouge

> > program that wrote another program to delete them

> -

> > their fate was decided in a micro-second.

>

> a rouge program? Who cares what colour it is?

> :p

>

> My guess would be someone reported abuse, except that

> I don't recall any such behaviour there

Don't be silly, I meant a cosmetic program.

jbisha at 2007-7-28 20:09:07 >

Incidentally, there are forums specifically for discussing suggested enhancements in future releases etc. on http://www.java.net/ in particular

http://forums.java.net/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=48

malcolmmca at 2007-7-28 20:09:07 >

> > So anyone want to guess why the closure thread is

> > gone?

>

> It isn't gone, it just scrolled off the first page

> since it hasn't been posted to recently. See

> http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5191704

Ah...I was probably thinking of the AI thread then.

jschella at 2007-7-28 20:09:12 >

> Its a shame too coz we were about to figure how to

> build and program this hyper intelligent machine.

> But as others have pointed, the site server beat us

> to it and deleted the thread to deny us of this

> knowledge- ahh they got us already</shaking fist in

> air in exaspetion>!

It's also a shame because of the one comment someone made:

"That sounds like machine talk! Burn him!"

Djaunla at 2007-7-28 20:09:12 >

> > > 1) Somebody felt he was getting beat up (i.e.,

> > people

> > > were disagreeing with him) and reported abuse.

> > >

> > possible but unlikely.

>

> Why does the link "Read the Developer Forums Code of

> Conduct" at the bottom of the page not go directly to

> the relevant page?

because that would show a logical way of working on the part of the person creating this site.

jwentinga at 2007-7-28 20:09:12 >