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Hi,I'm totally new. I was wondering about the api documentation. I see that although it's enormous, it is still light on details. What can one do to find out about a class or method if he doesn't follow the api docs? Is there anything else? Thank you. Chris
[281 byte] By [JavaBUZZa] at [2007-11-27 8:40:53]
# 1

> I'm totally new. I was wondering about the api

> documentation. I see that although it's enormous, it

> is still light on details. What can one do to find

> out about a class or method if he doesn't follow the

> api docs? Is there anything else? Thank you.

Hello and welcome to java. The Java community is huge to say the least. With perseverance and Google, you'll find an over-abundance of information available to you. Probably your best bet now is the combination of a good basic Java book and the Sun Java tutorials. You can find the latter here:

http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html

Good luck and good coding!

/Pete

petes1234a at 2007-7-12 20:39:34 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 2
> What can one do to find out about a class or method if he doesn't follow the> api docs? Is there anything else? Google.~
yawmarka at 2007-7-12 20:39:34 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 3
Hi,Thanks. I was afraid you'd say that.Chris
JavaBUZZa at 2007-7-12 20:39:34 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 4

> Hi,

>

>Thanks. I was afraid you'd say that.

> Chris

Why is that? Google is an excellent resource. I use it all the time. Learn how to use it properly and you'll find that - instead of waiting for people to respond to your posts on the forums - you'll be able to find the answer (yourself) in a fraction of the time.

Navy_Codera at 2007-7-12 20:39:34 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 5

" . . . if he doesn't follow the api docs?"

I'm not sure of the wisdom of ignoring the API docs.

To paraphrase an analogy once made here:

"It would be like trying to learn about Christianity without reading the Bible."

" . . . it is still light on details."

Light?

Everything is there except for the actual implementation code of the methods.

And you can find those somewhere in the JDK directory structure.

Look for a directory called "source" or "src".

LazarusLonga at 2007-7-12 20:39:34 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 6
Hi JavaBUZZ,I recommend pete1234's suggestion.Sun tutorials to learn the basics, and API javadocs to know all the available tools (here I mean classes and methods) and how to use them.
java_knighta at 2007-7-12 20:39:34 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 7

Hi,

By "I was afraid you'd say that." I mean there is no safety net, no backup, just a search and a hope that google will find something and if it doesn't, tough doo doo. Also, I want to reiterate that the documentation is VERY SKETCHY. LazarusLong Where have you been? Have you read it? It is FAR from COMPLETE and I'm sure there is more said about the API offline at Sun. Finally, by "not follow" the docs, of course, I mean not understand. I don't mean ignore. I really think that size is the limiting factor as to why the API isn't more detailed but again I give thanks for the advice and I put a link on my desktop

http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html

to get to the tutorials.

Chris

JavaBUZZa at 2007-7-12 20:39:34 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 8
try this.. hope u like it http://www.freejavaguide.com/corejava.htmjas
jas999a at 2007-7-12 20:39:34 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 9
> Also, I want to reiterate> that the documentation is VERY SKETCHY.In what way? Give us an example.
CaptainMorgan08a at 2007-7-12 20:39:34 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 10
> "LazarusLong Where have you been?"Space and time travel.I'm over 600 years old.I've been everywhere and seen everything.And I don't think you're gonna learn Java because everyone here has left their spoons home.
LazarusLonga at 2007-7-12 20:39:34 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 11
The API docs are simply for reference; they are not at all intended to be used to LEARN Java. Someone linked the Sun Java Tutorial. That is your best bet, unless you want to buy a book.
Djaunla at 2007-7-12 20:39:34 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...