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I have managed to download Java SE to my laptop but now can't get it to run. Every time I double click on the icon, the Sun Download Manager opens but I can't see anything on there to help me. I know this does not bode well for my future as a Java programmer (!) but can anyone please

[299 byte] By [jasnijadea] at [2007-11-27 7:02:08]

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# 1

What icon are you clicking on? What are you trying to do? A JDK/JRE that is installed does not have an icon on the desktop.

kajbja at 2007-7-12 18:53:06 >

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# 2

The icon has a picture of a cup of coffee on it. When I downloaded it, it asked me where I wanted it saving to and I said the desktop because I thought it would be easier to find. I am trying to get it to run.Message was edited by: jasnijade

jasnijadea at 2007-7-12 18:53:06 >

# 3

Are you sure that it isn't the icon for the java online installer? How large was the application / exe that you downloaded?

kajbja at 2007-7-12 18:53:06 >

# 4

1.16 KB. Then it says 4KB on disk.

jasnijadea at 2007-7-12 18:53:06 >

# 5

> 1.16 KB. Then it says 4KB on disk.That's probably only for the icon. Run the installer and follow the steps. I think that you downloaded the online installer. A JDK (That is what you need if you want to compile code) is quite large.Kaj

kajbja at 2007-7-12 18:53:06 >

# 6

I have now downloaded a document with 361KB and, when I try to open it, I get a message saying Unable to Download (name of document) for Installation but without any explanation as to why not.

jasnijadea at 2007-7-12 18:53:06 >

# 7

It might be easier for you to start from the beginning again. Download the Java offline installation and install it.Kaj

kajbja at 2007-7-12 18:53:06 >

# 8

guess he's clicking the JWS icon some versions put on the Windows desktop and expecting an IDE or something to start.

jwentinga at 2007-7-12 18:53:06 >

# 9

> guess he's clicking the JWS icon some versions put on> the Windows desktopDoes that start Sun Download Manager?

kajbja at 2007-7-12 18:53:06 >

# 10

I've downloaded the Java offline installation and I must have managed to install it because it's on the Add/Remove list in the Control Panel.

jasnijadea at 2007-7-12 18:53:06 >

# 11

it sounds like your install worked? What are you expecting to load when you click the image?

ita6cgra at 2007-7-12 18:53:06 >

# 12

Good question. I suppose that, because I'm used to Windows, I expected something to open up and fill the screen telling me what to do next. Am I right in thinking it's not as simple as that?

jasnijadea at 2007-7-12 18:53:06 >

# 13

Where did you installed the program. Mostly its in your Program folder.Look there for the Java folder and then the Java Program.Message was edited by: SandyRed

SandyReda at 2007-7-12 18:53:06 >

# 14

> Look there for the Java folder and then the Java Program.

?! What Java program, there isn't "the Java program".

It's just exactly like the OP now understands:

> Good question. I suppose that, because I'm used to

> Windows, I expected something to open up and fill the

> screen telling me what to do next. Am I right in thinking it's

> not as simple as that?

Yes that's right.

Use the command line, set your PATH, use the javac and java commands.

Later you can always try an IDE.

tom_jansena at 2007-7-12 18:53:06 >

# 15

> Good question. I suppose that, because I'm used to

> Windows, I expected something to open up and fill the

> screen telling me what to do next. Am I right in

> thinking it's not as simple as that?

Well I can see why you would think that but you have installed java and you can now start to run/code your own programs. Why are you downloading java is it to run applications that you are simply using or is it to create your own applications?

ita6cgra at 2007-7-21 22:11:24 >

# 16

I want to see if JDK was loaded or in his Program folder. That way we would know how to tell him to set the path in the command line.Message was edited by: SandyRed

SandyReda at 2007-7-21 22:11:24 >

# 17

Sorry, I'm a complete beginner. What's an OP and what's an IDE?I'm wanting to learn to create my own applications. Guess I've got a long way to go but you've got to start somewhere!Message was edited by: jasnijade

jasnijadea at 2007-7-21 22:11:25 >

# 18

> Sorry, I'm a complete beginner. What's an OP and

> what's an IDE?

IDE == Integrated Development Environment (e.g. Eclipse)

OP == Original Poster (e.g. you :)

[EDIT]: By the way, this tutorial may be of some help:

http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/getStarted/cupojava/win32.html

kevjavaa at 2007-7-21 22:11:25 >

# 19

Ah ok you may want to check the sun tutorials http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/ always a good place to start. It should answer any questions if not keep posting ;-)

ita6cgra at 2007-7-21 22:11:25 >

# 20

Thank you to everyone who's offered help/advice. I'm very grateful for your willingness to share your expertise. I will no doubt be asking more questions in the near future but hopefully they will become less stupid!

jasnijadea at 2007-7-21 22:11:25 >

# 21

> Thank you to everyone who's offered help/advice. I'm

> very grateful for your willingness to share your

> expertise. I will no doubt be asking more questions

> in the near future but hopefully they will become

> less stupid!

Your question wasn't stupid. Asking others to do your homework is stupid :)

kajbja at 2007-7-21 22:11:25 >

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