Recommended GUI

Just wondering... I've always been a "black and white" java programmer, never using GUIs...I've been using Eclipse for my coding... is there any GUI that you know of for Eclipse? Or would you recommend something different?Thanks,Anthony
[266 byte] By [hotCodera] at [2007-11-27 2:20:25]
# 1

I started out with a GUI. It's probably better to learn to do everything manually first, but a GUI saves TIME! I started out with VAJ and then moved into the new Websphere products. Great to work with, save for the fact it's a resource hog. I like the built in server that WSAD and RAD provides, plus all the templates, auto code syntax, searches, etc...

That being said, IMHO, Eclipse is the best overall IDE out there. I've been using it for 5 months now and it's very similar to Websphere, but without the bloat. Eclipse uses the same engine as Websphere I'm told. I'm going to check out using the JBoss AS plugin for home development. At work we are using Sybase as our webserver.

For example, yesterday I found that I can right click on a method name and see what other methods call it. I didn't know that was in there. I knew the F3 key would go back to an objects declaration root, but I'm still learning the features. I really like working with it, plus it's got lots of free plugins that are very usefull.

HTH,

James

jamesEstona at 2007-7-12 2:21:44 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 2
[url= http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=788898&start=10]Does this answer your question?[/url]
mlka at 2007-7-12 2:21:44 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 3
Well... sort of. The link had quite a bit of info on IDEs... not necessarily GUIs....And, James... The JBoss plugin is for Eclipse?Thanks,Anthony
hotCodera at 2007-7-12 2:21:44 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 4
> Well... sort of. The link had quite a bit of info on> IDEs... not necessarily GUIs....What do you mean by "GUIs"? GUI editoris?
mlka at 2007-7-12 2:21:44 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 5

> I started out with a GUI. It's probably better to

> learn to do everything manually first, but a GUI

> saves TIME! I started out with VAJ and then moved

> into the new Websphere products. Great to work with,

> save for the fact it's a resource hog. I like the

> built in server that WSAD and RAD provides, plus all

> the templates, auto code syntax, searches, etc...

>

> That being said, IMHO, Eclipse is the best overall

> IDE out there. I've been using it for 5 months now

> and it's very similar to Websphere, but without the

> bloat. Eclipse uses the same engine as Websphere I'm

> told. I'm going to check out using the JBoss AS

> plugin for home development. At work we are using

> Sybase as our webserver.

>

> For example, yesterday I found that I can right click

> on a method name and see what other methods call it.

> I didn't know that was in there. I knew the F3 key

> would go back to an objects declaration root, but I'm

> still learning the features. I really like working

> with it, plus it's got lots of free plugins that are

> very usefull.

>

> HTH,

> James

Hi, You can download a PDF of all the keyboard shortcuts for Eclipse here:

http://eclipse-tools.sourceforge.net/shortcuts.html

and for the person asking about plugins see here:

http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/Web_Links+main.html

_helloWorld_a at 2007-7-12 2:21:44 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 6

Now I'm confused? I thought you meant IDE by GUI? The IDE allows you to work in a GUI environment without doing everything off the command line.

Yes, there is a free JBoss AS plugin another group here is using with Eclipse to run apps with. It's supposed to be easy to use and work with. I found a tutorial on it, but I don't have the link handy, nor have I had a chance to use it yet.

jamesEstona at 2007-7-12 2:21:44 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 7

> Now I'm confused? I thought you meant IDE by GUI? The

> IDE allows you to work in a GUI environment without

> doing everything off the command line.

>

> Yes, there is a free JBoss AS plugin another group

> here is using with Eclipse to run apps with. It's

> supposed to be easy to use and work with. I found a

> tutorial on it, but I don't have the link handy, nor

> have I had a chance to use it yet.

if only there was some way of looking these things up on the internet

georgemca at 2007-7-12 2:21:44 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 8
So by GUI, you really mean plugin I assume. Okay, there are probably hundreds out there, was there something specific you were referring to?
jamesEstona at 2007-7-12 2:21:44 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 9
> So by GUI, you really mean plugin I assume. Okay,> there are probably hundreds out there, was there> something specific you were referring to?a plugin need not contribute to the eclipse UI
georgemca at 2007-7-12 2:21:44 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 10

> > Now I'm confused? I thought you meant IDE by GUI?

> The

> > IDE allows you to work in a GUI environment

> without

> > doing everything off the command line.

> >

> > Yes, there is a free JBoss AS plugin another group

> > here is using with Eclipse to run apps with. It's

> > supposed to be easy to use and work with. I found

> a

> > tutorial on it, but I don't have the link handy,

> nor

> > have I had a chance to use it yet.

>

> if only there was some way of looking these things up

> on the internet

That George ... always the kidder.

abillconsla at 2007-7-12 2:21:44 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 11
So OP ... what do you really mean by GUI?
abillconsla at 2007-7-12 2:21:44 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 12
Hi - I was referring to a WYSIWYG GUI Editor (plugin?) for Eclipse, through which I can "hand code"....Thanks,Anthony
hotCodera at 2007-7-12 2:21:44 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 13

> Hi - I was referring to a WYSIWYG GUI Editor

> (plugin?) for Eclipse, through which I can "hand

> code"....

Right. Netbeans has the best WYSIWYG GUI editor IMO (Matisse). You have to be good when using it (make things private & final and rename everything). But the tool is very easy to use.

A Matisse plugin for Eclipse does exist but I've never used it.

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mlk

mlka at 2007-7-12 2:21:44 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 14

> Hi - I was referring to a WYSIWYG GUI Editor

> (plugin?) for Eclipse, through which I can "hand

> code"....

>

> Thanks,

> Anthony

pretty sure recent eclipses come with one. certainly, if you get the Callisto distribution, there's one to be installed. they're not great, though. the code they generate needs a lot of refactoring

georgemca at 2007-7-12 2:21:44 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 15
O.K... I guess I'll just switch over to NetBeans, then.... Thanks all for the info!Anthony
hotCodera at 2007-7-21 20:25:25 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...