I started out with a GUI. It's probably better to learn to do everything manually first, but a GUI saves TIME! I started out with VAJ and then moved into the new Websphere products. Great to work with, save for the fact it's a resource hog. I like the built in server that WSAD and RAD provides, plus all the templates, auto code syntax, searches, etc...
That being said, IMHO, Eclipse is the best overall IDE out there. I've been using it for 5 months now and it's very similar to Websphere, but without the bloat. Eclipse uses the same engine as Websphere I'm told. I'm going to check out using the JBoss AS plugin for home development. At work we are using Sybase as our webserver.
For example, yesterday I found that I can right click on a method name and see what other methods call it. I didn't know that was in there. I knew the F3 key would go back to an objects declaration root, but I'm still learning the features. I really like working with it, plus it's got lots of free plugins that are very usefull.
HTH,
James
> I started out with a GUI. It's probably better to
> learn to do everything manually first, but a GUI
> saves TIME! I started out with VAJ and then moved
> into the new Websphere products. Great to work with,
> save for the fact it's a resource hog. I like the
> built in server that WSAD and RAD provides, plus all
> the templates, auto code syntax, searches, etc...
>
> That being said, IMHO, Eclipse is the best overall
> IDE out there. I've been using it for 5 months now
> and it's very similar to Websphere, but without the
> bloat. Eclipse uses the same engine as Websphere I'm
> told. I'm going to check out using the JBoss AS
> plugin for home development. At work we are using
> Sybase as our webserver.
>
> For example, yesterday I found that I can right click
> on a method name and see what other methods call it.
> I didn't know that was in there. I knew the F3 key
> would go back to an objects declaration root, but I'm
> still learning the features. I really like working
> with it, plus it's got lots of free plugins that are
> very usefull.
>
> HTH,
> James
Hi, You can download a PDF of all the keyboard shortcuts for Eclipse here:
http://eclipse-tools.sourceforge.net/shortcuts.html
and for the person asking about plugins see here:
http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/Web_Links+main.html
Now I'm confused? I thought you meant IDE by GUI? The IDE allows you to work in a GUI environment without doing everything off the command line.
Yes, there is a free JBoss AS plugin another group here is using with Eclipse to run apps with. It's supposed to be easy to use and work with. I found a tutorial on it, but I don't have the link handy, nor have I had a chance to use it yet.
> Now I'm confused? I thought you meant IDE by GUI? The
> IDE allows you to work in a GUI environment without
> doing everything off the command line.
>
> Yes, there is a free JBoss AS plugin another group
> here is using with Eclipse to run apps with. It's
> supposed to be easy to use and work with. I found a
> tutorial on it, but I don't have the link handy, nor
> have I had a chance to use it yet.
if only there was some way of looking these things up on the internet
> > Now I'm confused? I thought you meant IDE by GUI?
> The
> > IDE allows you to work in a GUI environment
> without
> > doing everything off the command line.
> >
> > Yes, there is a free JBoss AS plugin another group
> > here is using with Eclipse to run apps with. It's
> > supposed to be easy to use and work with. I found
> a
> > tutorial on it, but I don't have the link handy,
> nor
> > have I had a chance to use it yet.
>
> if only there was some way of looking these things up
> on the internet
That George ... always the kidder.
> Hi - I was referring to a WYSIWYG GUI Editor
> (plugin?) for Eclipse, through which I can "hand
> code"....
Right. Netbeans has the best WYSIWYG GUI editor IMO (Matisse). You have to be good when using it (make things private & final and rename everything). But the tool is very easy to use.
A Matisse plugin for Eclipse does exist but I've never used it.
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> Hi - I was referring to a WYSIWYG GUI Editor
> (plugin?) for Eclipse, through which I can "hand
> code"....
>
> Thanks,
> Anthony
pretty sure recent eclipses come with one. certainly, if you get the Callisto distribution, there's one to be installed. they're not great, though. the code they generate needs a lot of refactoring