Java Developer Exam Questions
I got my JCP certification a while ago and have been debating if it is even worth it to go forth and get the Developer certification. A colleague of mine told me that certification exams for specific technologies are generally good only for contract work, not for full-time employees. He suggested rather than wasting my time and money on exams that I should take night classes and work towards a masters.
So this is really a two part question, first of all do you think it is worth the money and time? Secondly, what kind of project assignment could I expect to get if I sign up for it?
> So this is really a two part question, first of all
> do you think it is worth the money and time?
See about using OPM.
> Secondly, what kind of project assignment could I
> expect to get if I sign up for it?
[url=http://www.sun.com/training/catalog/courses/CX-310-252A.xml]Sun Certified Developer for Java 2 Platform (Step 1 of 2) (CX-310-252A): Nature of the assignment[/url]
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Thanks for the link but I was looking more for personal experience and an example of an actual exam program that somebody had been given.What is OPM?
> Thanks for the link but I was looking more for
> personal experience and an example of an actual exam
> program that somebody had been given.
I haven't taken it yet, but I'll probably try to tackle it near the end of this year, once I've finished my graduate work. For current discussion of what the test involves from people that a) are taking it or b) have taken it, I don't think you can do any better than [url=http://saloon.javaranch.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=25]JavaRanch[/url].
> What is OPM?
Other People's Money.
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@Op. It's hard to give an answer to your question since it depends on where you live, how much experience you have, what type of work you are looking for etc.
The certifications are more important in some countries but they are usually only important/relevant if you don't have that much experience and if you don't have a degree that is programming related.
Taking the developer certification is pretty easy since you are implementing a small application and you have plenty of time to do it. You can research on topics that you don't know while you are taking the exam.
Kaj
Well I am American, living in the north east, in a metropolitan area with about a population of around 1to 2 million.
I have a bachelors of science in Information technology and 2 years of java development and other IT experience out of school. I don't do contract work, don't ever plan to, and
uh... i have no felonies on my record.
Did I miss anything?
> Well I am American, living in the north east, in a
> metropolitan area with about a population of around
> 1to 2 million.
>
> I have a bachelors of science in Information
> technology and 2 years of java development and other
> IT experience out of school. I don't do contract
> work, don't ever plan to, and
Sounds like you don't have to take the certification.
> Well I am American, living in the north east, in a
> metropolitan area with about a population of around
> 1to 2 million.
>
> I have a bachelors of science in Information
> technology and 2 years of java development and other
> IT experience out of school. I don't do contract
> work, don't ever plan to, and
>
> uh... i have no felonies on my record.
>
> Did I miss anything?
Under normal circumstances no, but if the economy is really bad like it was in 2002, a relevant certification might get you an interview, since when you apply to a company. normally your resume is scanned by an automated application for the buzzwords.
During regular times like these days, they dont carry much value, but having said that you need to prepare for rainy days, since it is always gona rain one day.
> since it is always gonna rain one day.Like if the next American President is a Democrat :-)
> During regular times like these days, they dont carry
> much value, but having said that you need to prepare
> for rainy days, since it is always gona rain one day.
You have to put it in perspective. A developer with many years of experience already has lots of buzzwords in the CV. Adding the developer certification to your CV adds nothing if you have real experience.
Kaj
> > During regular times like these days, they dont
> carry
> > much value, but having said that you need to
> prepare
> > for rainy days, since it is always gona rain one
> day.
>
> You have to put it in perspective. A developer with
> many years of experience already has lots of
> buzzwords in the CV. Adding the developer
> certification to your CV adds nothing if you have
> real experience.
>
> Kaj
well certification in itself is a buzzword which might be missing. lolz. OK let me rephrase my statement. "Certification might or might not have any advantage, but ut definitely does not have any drawbacks!!! During real bad times it might help, it might add value but its definitely not going to hurt."
> well certification in itself is a buzzword which
> might be missing.
No one expects a developer with 10 years of experience to have a developer certification in the CV. It might actually make the CV look odd / suspicious. Why have a developer certification in there if you already have lots of experience?
Kaj
> > well certification in itself is a buzzword which
> > might be missing.
>
> No one expects a developer with 10 years of
> experience to have a developer certification in the
> CV. It might actually make the CV look odd /
> suspicious. Why have a developer certification in
> there if you already have lots of experience?
>
> Kaj
Well I have personally interviewed 10s of developers with 10 years of experience, but actually it turned out that they had 10 * 1year experience. Certifications are just a proff that you have worked on that technology as well. We are not talking about just java certifications. e.g. if I am hiring a java developer with 10 years of java experience who has an oracle certification as well, and I need somebody in the team to have a good understanding of databases it would be beneficial.
Or if the job requires some level of tibco experience, tibco certification would be good to have. Certifications just serve a hint that the applicant has some level of proficiency in the field he has been certified in. A j2ee enterprise architect certification might give one an idea that the applicant is familar with some practices in enterprise architecture. 10 years experience might not guarantee that, plus you might agree a lot of resumes you see these days of mid level developers, claim some kind of architectural exp., thought they might not even know of GoF patterns let alone Enterprise integration patterns. If I have two resumes in front of me with same amount of experience, one with a lot of certifications and the other just experience I would prefer the former, since atleast i know somebody has already done the pre screening for me.
I know what you are talking about, but I always encourage developers to go for certifications and not just java certifications,.
PS. I am not talking about entry level certifications only.
> We are not talking
> about just java certifications.
What? Since when? I'm only talking about the developer certification.
> e.g. if I am hiring
> a java developer with 10 years of java experience
> who has an oracle certification as well, and I need
> somebody in the team to have a good understanding of
> databases it would be beneficial.
That's a completely different issue. Who would you hire (if you need a good DBA)?
a) An oracle DBA with 10 years of experience as consultant and who also has good references.
b) An oracle DBA with 2 years experience and a certification, and no references?
> PS. I am not talking about entry level
> certifications only.
I was. You don't need entry level certifications if you have experience. That's what I've said all of the time.
Kaj
> > We are not talking
> > about just java certifications.
>
> What? Since when? I'm only talking about the
> developer certification.
My analysis was based on OP's comments
"A colleague of mine told me that certification exams for specific technologies are generally good only for contract work, not for full-time employees."
> > > We are not talking
> > > about just java certifications.
> >
> > What? Since when? I'm only talking about the
> > developer certification.
>
> My analysis was based on OP's comments
>
> "A colleague of mine told me that certification
> exams for specific technologies are generally good
> only for contract work, not for full-time
> employees."
Ok, but the topic says "Java Developer Exam Questions" the the first post ends with a question if he should take it or not.
I know understand your answers a bit better, but I personally think (and I have also held lots and lots of interviews) that a certification only is important if you have limited experience in the field that the certification covers. Real experience always beats certifications.
Kaj
kajbja at 2007-7-21 20:36:02 >
Hi
I took the exam it was relatively easy. The skills I needed for this exam was, a
understanding of parsing binary files from schema, basic all-round knowledge
of core libraries, java networking with Streams or RMI, a good knowledge of
Design patterns (specially MVC) and Swing.
You will most probably get a binary file with records. Initially you will have to
build an interface to read, update, create and delete records in my case I was
given a specific interface to implement.
This is the "Java Programming" forum, not career counseling. Please do not go off-topic.
gymma at 2007-7-21 20:36:02 >
> This is the "Java Programming" forum, not career> counseling. Please do not go off-topic.What? Are you serious?
kajbja at 2007-7-21 20:36:02 >
> This is the "Java Programming" forum, not career
> counseling. Please do not go off-topic.
If the moderator wishes to delete this thread then he can go right ahead.
Thanks guys for your opinions.
I shouldn't have any problem with MVC architecture and Swing based applications. I may need to bone up on RMI, but binary streams shouldn't be a problem.
The fact that they give you the interfaces makes things a little easier I am sure, so you basically already have a basic design laid out for you.
education is very important let me tell you story. i have not post so much recently because over last month i have been attend expert english lesson and also making a number (one) of dangerous unethical experiment. i am trying to find what happen if we put donkey in ballet suit and play music and teach to dance. thsi prove once and for all whether you can teach donkey in ballet suit to dance. i have plan to make second experiment but unfortunate i have to adandon after law change to prohibit hunting of tramp with crossbow. argument of how much education matter happen to me just last week at mama joojoo's boogaloo club in lobatse. in end i have to have arm wrestle with mama joojoo to decide who is right. after one hour i win so we decide education is important and also later after other matches who is better between jimmy hendrix and elvis and who is best lover in world (turn out to be me). i forget what point i trying to make now. rember thsi advices.
> education is very important let me tell you story. i
> have not post so much recently because over last
> month i have been attend expert english lesson and
> also making a number (one) of dangerous unethical
> experiment. i am trying to find what happen if we put
> donkey in ballet suit and play music and teach to
> dance. thsi prove once and for all whether you can
> teach donkey in ballet suit to dance. i have plan to
> make second experiment but unfortunate i have to
> adandon after law change to prohibit hunting of tramp
> with crossbow. argument of how much education matter
> happen to me just last week at mama joojoo's boogaloo
> club in lobatse. in end i have to have arm wrestle
> with mama joojoo to decide who is right. after one
> hour i win so we decide education is important and
> also later after other matches who is better between
> jimmy hendrix and elvis and who is best lover in
> world (turn out to be me). i forget what point i
> trying to make now. rember thsi advices.
Well there you have it folks.
Undisputable proof. After reading of these sanctified pearls of wisdom, I feel utterly compelled to further my education in every way I know how.
O_o
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> majinda,> > Is your sister #3 prostitute in wherever the hll you> are?I buy Sun Certified Java Programmer exam, he buy Sun Certified Java Programmer exam.I buy Sun Certified Java Developer exam, he cannot afford.Great Success!
> > majinda,
> >
> > Is your sister #3 prostitute in wherever the hll
> you
> > are?
>
> I buy Sun Certified Java Programmer exam, he buy Sun
> Certified Java Programmer exam.
>
> I buy Sun Certified Java Developer exam, he cannot
> afford.
>
> Great Success!
VERY nice !
> majinda,
>
> Is your sister #3 prostitute in wherever the hll you
> are?
unfortunate recent laws pass to ban prostitution along with tramp hunting act of 2007 in crushing double blow from government. not only thsi ruin my experiments but also devastate local economy and cause cancelling of top 4 most popular tv program. so far foxy boxing remains unaffected. rember thsi advices.
> top 4 most popular tv programKentucky, you live in Kentucky?
