SCWCD for Java 5 EE using JSF

Since JSF the new way to go for web based application, I don't want to put a lot of effort in older and mostly obsolete SCWCD 1.4. When is Sun going to offer SCWCD for java 5 EE and associated training (web, CD and instructor led -- just like what they have for 1.4).

By the way the official training from SUN for SCWCD 1.4 is still teaching Struts which is sooo old and obsolete compared to the brand new and much cooler JSF. How about a certification for building JSF application using Java Studio Creator or NetBeans with Visual Web Pack?

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[598 byte] By [Sabira] at [2007-11-26 20:41:45]
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> Since JSF the new way to go for web based application

There are a lot of people who would argue with that.

Web application frameworks are an area where there

are many competing solutions, and no clear winner.

Just because Sun plopped it into the J2EE API doesn't

make JSF a fait accompli.

As for certifications, I can't comment because I have no

interest in certifications, at all.

DrLaszloJamfa at 2007-7-10 2:00:38 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,Training...
# 2
Do you think the new exam will come soon ?By now , the specification of Servlet 2.5 has not final released.
Jianfeng_qiana at 2007-7-10 2:00:38 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,Training...
# 3
I posted a similar question here. http://forum.java.sun.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9541540Does anybody know when the new certification (SCWCD 5.0) will be available, or if it is even being worked on?Thanks.
jessee9a at 2007-7-10 2:00:38 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,Training...
# 4
http://www.apress.com/book/bookDisplay.html?bID=10314Does the author know something we don't? The title of the book is "SCWCD Exam with Java EE 5" scheduled to be released August, 20 2007.
jessee9a at 2007-7-10 2:00:38 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,Training...
# 5
I hope they don't make jsf part of the scwcd. its still in its infancy. too many bugsto be ironed out.
josephquinn80a at 2007-7-10 2:00:38 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,Training...
# 6

I agree JSF is new, but the component model is so different and revolutionary adding a true Web Event model, it should be covered in the test.

besides, anyone doing real front end development with AJAX (JavaScript) control, the true possibility of the infrastructure depends on a Web Event Model and differed evaluations.

I would gladly be certified in this topic.. This is the future of Web Applications API. or we will all be doing Flex programming in the future.

Tony McClay

MrBigMAN9999a at 2007-7-10 2:00:38 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,Training...
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I am spent the time on the Java Tutorial J2EE 5 and wish to take my test based on the JSP 2.1 Specification and Servlet 2.5 specifications.

I think forward as to certifications, and this is the Web Technology as it moves forward. A Web Event Model, and deferred EL Evaluations may save us all from a world of Flex programming.

PLEASE SUN! Get moving on this...!!!!

Like all technologies, please implementing the technologies badly is the "Achilles Heel " of the whole Java/J2EE platform. This forward thinking at least ensure to companies companies that, the person has enough base knowledge to use the tool as it was designed.

The equivalent of a person reading 1/2 the chapter on Threads and implementing their own Thread Model that "Does it better." You have no idea how many times I have seen this!

Tony "Mr. BigMAN"

MrBigMAN9999a at 2007-7-10 2:00:38 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,Training...
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JSF is the best thing happening to the Java world -- it is Java's answer to increasing popularity of ASP.NET. We are doing JSF for all our new web applications. We are about twice as productive as we were before (JSF with Java Studio Creator ot Netbeans Visual Web Pack). Skeptics, just try it and then you will believe it. By the way JSF spec lead is the same guy who created Struts (make your own conclusions, his name is Craig McClanahan). JSF is the result of years of work and lessons learned by Java community (and some ideas copied over from ASP.NET :) I can't wait for sun to come up with SCWCD exam with JSF as the major focus. It is so revolutionary and productive, that there should be a separate certification for it. GO JSF.

http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/library/j-jsf1/

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