Is DS6 installer crap?

Ok first bad point is that i am trying to cram it into a zone, but the docs say i can!

Big problem i have got is that the installer can only install one package at a time!

Why! Just Why have installer for this when it can only add one pkg at a time?

I am trying to install the common pkg in the global zone like the docs say - but its a quick and fun as paint drying!

Can any one provide me a list of what pkg this crap installer is trying to do, so i can do its job quicker. I am installing this on two boxes for testing, DS6 is not of to a great start!

[585 byte] By [jpdrawneek1a] at [2007-11-26 20:40:27]
# 1

> Ok first bad point is that i am trying to cram it

> into a zone, but the docs say i can!

If you are installing into a whole root zone then you can just install into the zone

(if you are running Solaris 10u2 (6/06) or older then you may need to workaround

an issue that is described in the Java ES 5 Installation Guide, p64 "Installing Shared

Components in a Whole Root Zone").

To install into a sparse root zone you must install the shared components in the

global zone first. This is because a number of shared components are also bundled

with Solaris and are installed in /usr, which can't be written to in a sparse root zone.

So they must be installed in the global zone and where they propagate to the

non-global zones.

> Big problem i have got is that the installer can only

> install one package at a time!

>

> Why! Just Why have installer for this when it can

> only add one pkg at a time?

>

> I am trying to install the common pkg in the global

> zone like the docs say - but its a quick and fun as

> paint drying!

Installing into the global zone when there are non-global zones can take a while.

The packages are propagated to the non-global zones which requires the packages

to be added to the non-global zones. Also if the non-global zones are not up

and running the zone must be started when the package is added -- and in fact I

think if the package subsystem has to start a zone to add the package, it then

stops the zone after the package is added so it must be started again for the

next package. So make sure your zones are up when you do the install.

>

> Can any one provide me a list of what pkg this crap

> installer is trying to do, so i can do its job

> quicker. I am installing this on two boxes for

> testing, DS6 is not of to a great start!

If using the native package installer is not working out for you, you could try

using the DS EE 6.0 zip distribution. This is available at the bottom of

the Java ES 5 and Identity Suite download pages:

http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreId=8&PartDetailId=JES5 -IDENTSUITE-G-F&TransactionId=Try

I don't have any experience with it -- maybe somebody who does can comment.

Joe

jfddpa at 2007-7-10 1:58:44 > top of Java-index,Web & Directory Servers,Directory Servers...
# 2

> > Ok first bad point is that i am trying to cram it

> > into a zone, but the docs say i can!

>

> If you are installing into a whole root zone then you

> can just install into the zone

> (if you are running Solaris 10u2 (6/06) or older then

> you may need to workaround

> an issue that is described in the Java ES 5

> Installation Guide, p64 "Installing Shared

> Components in a Whole Root Zone").

>

> To install into a sparse root zone you must install

> the shared components in the

> global zone first.

Thats what i am doing

> This is because a number of shared

> components are also bundled

> with Solaris and are installed in /usr, which can't

> be written to in a sparse root zone.

Fine i understand that

> So they must be installed in the global zone and

> where they propagate to the

> non-global zones.

>

> > Big problem i have got is that the installer can

> only

> > install one package at a time!

> >

> > Why! Just Why have installer for this when it can

> > only add one pkg at a time?

> >

> > I am trying to install the common pkg in the

> global

> > zone like the docs say - but its a quick and fun

> as

> > paint drying!

>

> Installing into the global zone when there are

> non-global zones can take a while.

Yes I know :)

> The packages are propagated to the non-global zones

> which requires the packages

> to be added to the non-global zones. Also if the

> non-global zones are not up

> and running the zone must be started when the package

> is added -- and in fact I

> think if the package subsystem has to start a zone to

> add the package, it then

> stops the zone after the package is added so it must

> be started again for the

> next package. So make sure your zones are up when you

> do the install.

>

Ok - no where in the docs it says this

Also i can install apps just fine using pkgadd and blastwave pkg-get

Its just the crap installer which craps up on every package!

> >

> > Can any one provide me a list of what pkg this

> crap

> > installer is trying to do, so i can do its job

> > quicker. I am installing this on two boxes for

> > testing, DS6 is not of to a great start!

>

> If using the native package installer is not working

> out for you, you could try

> using the DS EE 6.0 zip distribution. This is

> available at the bottom of

> the Java ES 5 and Identity Suite download pages:

>

> http://javashoplm.sun.com/ECom/docs/Welcome.jsp?StoreI

> d=8&PartDetailId=JES5-IDENTSUITE-G-F&TransactionId=Try

>

I have got this, but i wanted the DSCC which is not included in that distribution - read the docs!

The docs claim it can only be installed with the installer.

> First install Java Enterprise System common components in the global > zone, then install Directory Service Control Center in the sparse zone.

So the only way it describes on how to install these common components is through the installer script

theres no description of a manual way off adding the pkg like before

Could we have that list - i gave up on the install and just guessed packages till it worked, which was so much quicker!

>

> I don't have any experience with it -- maybe somebody

> who does can comment.

>

> Joe

jpdrawneek1a at 2007-7-10 1:58:44 > top of Java-index,Web & Directory Servers,Directory Servers...
# 3

The exact list of packages installed will depend on what components you select when running the installer. The package list(s) probably aren't documented because there are several possible combinations based on choices in the installer, and the state the OS on your machine.

One way to generate your own list is to run the installer on a test machine, but do "pkginfo | sort" before and after installation. Then you can compare what packages were added or changed.

gtholberta at 2007-7-10 1:58:44 > top of Java-index,Web & Directory Servers,Directory Servers...