Applications where core java is used

Hi,

I am quite new to java.

I am very curious to know about the application area (domain) where core java programming (Java Standard Edition) is used.

What I mean is the industries where core java programming is used in the commerial world.

Could some one help me out with this query?

Regards

Paresh

[342 byte] By [paresh27a] at [2007-11-26 17:21:32]
# 1
well, what is your query?
georgemca at 2007-7-8 23:49:32 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 2

> Hi,

> I am quite new to java.

>

> I am very curious to know about the application area

> (domain) where core java programming (Java Standard

> Edition) is used.

>

> What I mean is the industries where core java

> programming is used in the commerial world.

Standalone desktop applications?

qUesT_foR_knOwLeDgea at 2007-7-8 23:49:32 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 3

> > Hi,

> > I am quite new to java.

> >

> > I am very curious to know about the application

> area

> > (domain) where core java programming (Java

> Standard

> > Edition) is used.

> >

> > What I mean is the industries where core java

> > programming is used in the commerial world.

>

> Standalone desktop applications?

enterprise applications that don't actually use any j2ee packages? (like the one I'm working on now)

georgemca at 2007-7-8 23:49:32 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 4
Yes, that is exactly what I mean. I need to know the enterprise applications which don't actually use j2ee but only core java / j2seI need to know how I could practically make use of the j2se knowledge in commercial applications.
paresh27a at 2007-7-8 23:49:32 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 5

> Yes, that is exactly what I mean.

>

> I need to know the enterprise applications which

> don't actually use j2ee but only core java / j2se

>

> I need to know how I could practically make use of

> the j2se knowledge in commercial applications.

you want a list of enterprise applications that don't use j2ee? how are we supposed to know? I know of exactly one, because I'm working on it now

you can make use of j2se knowledge because the majority of the work in a j2ee project will still be core java. j2ee isn't a separate langauge, it's a set of standards and APIs that extend j2se

georgemca at 2007-7-8 23:49:32 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 6
To add to the above,Just as I guess J2ee web component development is used for developing web pages / GUI.I would like to know where I could make practical use of core java / j2se to do what sort of jobs?Any help is appreciated.RegardsParesh
paresh27a at 2007-7-8 23:49:32 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 7

> To add to the above,

>

> Just as I guess J2ee web component development is

> used for developing web pages / GUI.

>

> I would like to know where I could make practical use

> of core java / j2se to do what sort of jobs?

>

> Any help is appreciated.

>

> Regards

> Paresh

far too broad

georgemca at 2007-7-8 23:49:32 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 8
Thanks for your replies GeorgeCould you tell me the job that you are doing using just j2se. That should give me a fair amount of idea.ThanksParesh
paresh27a at 2007-7-8 23:49:32 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 9
> I would like to know where I could make practical use> of core java / j2se to do what sort of jobs?I know how to drive a car, what jobs can I get?
kajbja at 2007-7-8 23:49:32 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 10

> Could you tell me the job that you are doing using

> just j2se. That should give me a fair amount of

> idea.

It probably won't.

I've been ivolved in projects where we used j2se to:

* build a desktop application for gene analysis

* build a distributed system for distribution of digital content (ring tones etc)

The similarites are close to zero.

kajbja at 2007-7-8 23:49:32 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 11
> I know how to drive a car, what jobs can I get?<think>Pizza Hut delivery boy</think>
aniseeda at 2007-7-8 23:49:32 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 12

> Thanks for your replies George

>

> Could you tell me the job that you are doing using

> just j2se. That should give me a fair amount of

> idea.

>

> Thanks

> Paresh

tell you what about it? I'm a java developer, building retail systems. it's not web-based, we have a swing fat client, so no j2ee there. we use spring as a container and hibernate for persistence. hibernate manages our transactions for us, so still no j2ee there. what else do you need to know?

actually, I tell a lie. we've got a small component that serves address and postcode queries from a web app. that's a servlet, so technically j2ee. but not really

georgemca at 2007-7-8 23:49:32 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 13
> > I know how to drive a car, what jobs can I get?> > <think>Pizza Hut delivery boy</think>don't they normally terrorize pedestrians with their
georgemca at 2007-7-8 23:49:32 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 14

> > > I know how to drive a car, what jobs can I get?

> >

> > <think>Pizza Hut delivery boy</think>

>

> don't they normally terrorize pedestrians with their

> [url=http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=honda+c

> 90&btnG=Search+Images]crunchies[/url]?

Not in our neighbourhood! They scare pedestrians with their cars, but not as much as school buses.

It might also help having a pilot license to work in Pizza Hut.

http://www.air-tropical.com/photos/PIZZA-HUT.gif

aniseeda at 2007-7-8 23:49:32 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 15

> > > > I know how to drive a car, what jobs can I

> get?

> > >

> > > <think>Pizza Hut delivery boy</think>

> >

> > don't they normally terrorize pedestrians with

> their

> >

> [url=http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&q=honda+c

>

> > 90&btnG=Search+Images]crunchies[/url]?

>

> Not in our neighbourhood! They scare pedestrians with

> their cars, but not as much as school buses.

>

> It might also help having a pilot license to work in

> Pizza Hut.

> http://www.air-tropical.com/photos/PIZZA-HUT.gif

where on earth (or elsewhere?) was he delivering to?

georgemca at 2007-7-21 17:01:53 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 16

paresh,

Most java development is in J2EE these days.

I know of 5 J2EE projects (from accounting through to GIS)

verses 0 completely-non-J2EE projects

verses 1 .NET fat client integrating msOffice stuff - run away!

I imagine that military are the only ones with the budget to do "real" java projects.

... anyway I wouldn't get too hung up on "which industry", just get yourself a good pimp and go wherever he tells you to... that's how most programmers work.

Keith.

corlettka at 2007-7-21 17:01:53 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 17

> What I mean is the industries where core java

> programming is used in the commerial world.

Core Java is used everywhere unless you need to use the Micro edition. If you need the Enterprise extentions you add them to Core Java. If you need other extensions (libraries) you add them too.

corlettka at 2007-7-21 17:01:53 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 18

> I would like to know where I could make practical use

> of core java / j2se to do what sort of jobs?

Any jobs that don't require what J2EE adds.

Look at J2EE. See what it provides. Now look at the requirements for your project. Do they include features that are part of J2EE? If so, then you need J2EE (or need to roll your own). If not, then you don't.

jverda at 2007-7-21 17:01:53 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 19
> I imagine that military are the only ones with the> budget to do "real" java projects.What's a "real" Java project?
jverda at 2007-7-21 17:01:53 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 20
> > enterprise applications that don't actually use any> j2ee packages? (like the one I'm working on now)Everything that uses Java uses the core APIs (albeit sometimes only a subset of them, like JME applications).
jwentinga at 2007-7-21 17:01:53 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 21
> Most java development is in J2EE these days. I'm not sure about that. I have many friends who are Java developers but don't do JEE development. I don't see a reason to use JEE unless you are building web based applications. Kaj
kajbja at 2007-7-21 17:01:53 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 22
Your posts are very helpful. Thanks.
professaysa at 2007-7-21 17:01:53 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 23

> > Most java development is in J2EE these days.

>

> I'm not sure about that. I have many friends who are

> Java developers but don't do JEE development. I

> don't see a reason to use JEE unless you are building

> web based applications.

>

Lots of reasons, like when you're developing a fat client using EJBs.

And with the JEE spec incorporating ever more that's traditionally part of JSE you're likely using it without even knowing it.

JavaMail, JDBC, JNDI, etc. etc. are all now part of JEE for example.

jwentinga at 2007-7-21 17:01:53 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 24

> Lots of reasons, like when you're developing a fat

> client using EJBs.

True, but I think that those systems are in minority.... and I hope that they will die :)

> And with the JEE spec incorporating ever more that's

> traditionally part of JSE you're likely using it

> without even knowing it.

> JavaMail, JDBC, JNDI, etc. etc. are all now part of

> JEE for example.

But e.g. JDBC is also part of JSE so I don't consider it to be a JEE application if the rest of the application only uses JSE.

kajbja at 2007-7-21 17:01:53 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 25

> don't they normally terrorize pedestrians with their crunchies?

I thought you were talking about these: http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=crunchies+cadbury%27s

"Pay up, or I'll shove it up your nose!"

I work in the games industry, and have never touched J2EE. Currently I don't get much mileage out of my knowledge of the J2SE libraries either, because I'm mainly working with an in-house game engine.

YAT_Archivista at 2007-7-21 17:01:53 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...