Java != Javascript ?

Anyone else sudder at the implications of Java 6 and the following 2 lines : ?Benefits in upgrading developer environments to Sun's Java SE 6* JavaScript integrated and included with the platform
[217 byte] By [Aknibbsa] at [2007-11-26 15:30:36]
# 1
yeh it ships with the rhino engine or somethingdon't think it's anything to worry about. java will still != javascript, much like java != xml even though it ships with XML libraries
georgemca at 2007-7-8 21:47:18 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 2

> don't think it's anything to worry about. java will

> still != javascript, much like java != xml even

> though it ships with XML libraries

yes george you and me can make that distinction, but for many of the new people in the forum this could be a devastating few months.

Aknibbsa at 2007-7-8 21:47:18 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 3

I still have the attitude that JavaScript != Java. Just because the JVM will be able to intrerpret JavaScript will not neccessarily make JavaScript = Java. And most of the questions that people will ask still means that JavaScript != Java because it will be JavaScript scripts executing in a Browser that 99% of posters will be asking about.

So, it doesn't bother me. I don't neccessarily like it, or support it, but it doesn't bother me either.

masijade.a at 2007-7-8 21:47:18 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 4

> > don't think it's anything to worry about. java

> will

> > still != javascript, much like java != xml even

> > though it ships with XML libraries

>

> yes george you and me can make that distinction, but

> for many of the new people in the forum this could be

> a devastating few months.

good point. I can see it now:

John C. Newbie: how do I make dancing squirrels on my web page in javascript?

georgemc: java != javascript. this is a java forum. etc

John C. Newbie: but java now supports javascript. it says so [url="http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2SE/Desktop/scripting/"]here[/url]

georgemc: that's not the same as java being javascript

John C. Newbie: but it says so here [url="http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/J2SE/Desktop/scripting/"]here[/url]

georgemc: it doesn't say java is javascript

John C. Nebwie: why is everyone here so unhelpful? wah wah you're all a bunch of geek nerds with no girlfriends. screw you, I'm off to javaranch

georgemc: bye then

etc

georgemca at 2007-7-8 21:47:18 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...
# 5

> > > don't think it's anything to worry about. java

> > will

> > > still != javascript, much like java != xml even

> > > though it ships with XML libraries

> >

> > yes george you and me can make that distinction,

> but

> > for many of the new people in the forum this could

> be

> > a devastating few months.

>

> good point. I can see it now:

>

> John C. Newbie: how do I make dancing squirrels on my

> web page in javascript?

> georgemc: java != javascript. this is a java forum.

> etc

> John C. Newbie: but java now supports javascript. it

> says so

> [url="http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/

> J2SE/Desktop/scripting/"]here[/url]

> georgemc: that's not the same as java being

> javascript

> John C. Newbie: but it says so here

> [url="http://java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/

> J2SE/Desktop/scripting/"]here[/url]

> georgemc: it doesn't say java is javascript

> John C. Nebwie: why is everyone here so unhelpful?

> wah wah you're all a bunch of geek nerds with no

> girlfriends. screw you, I'm off to javaranch

> georgemc: bye then

>

> etc

They do this already, only without any kind of tact, spelling ability, or most importantly links.

Then again, this won't happen exactly like this, since they will never have taken the time to read the documentation, so their argument will be that Joe told them so.

masijade.a at 2007-7-8 21:47:18 > top of Java-index,Java Essentials,New To Java...