SUN TEAM: PLEASE GIVE US A DECENT APP SERVER!
Sun Team,
I am still persevering with JSC2 due to functionality. However my patience is really wearing thin with the app server. How many times in a sesion do I have kill it !! at least twice and hour. I have a top end PC and still it doesn't play ball.
Any chance of giving us tomcat or something that works?
I use both Eclipse and JSC2, and Eclipse(with another app server) has never given me a problem.
I am very, very frustrated with JSC2.
Regards,
LOTI
# 1
Sun Java System Application Server is a fine piece of software. Do a little research on performance tunning.Best regardsAntonio.
# 2
if you havea solution antonio , why dont you share the wealth, I have exactly the same problem. 2gb of RAM optomised PC etc etc still have issue's
# 3
Increasing the default value of Xmx to 768m (-Xmx768m) and adding XX:MaxPermSize=256m solved most of the problems I was having (out of memory errors, server stalling, etc). To modify this, go to the Admin Console, then Application Server -> JVM Settings -> JVM Options.
If this does not work, describe your problem or error message.
Hope this helps.
Antonio.
# 4
NetBeans + VWP includes Tomcat...
jsr at 2007-7-7 11:55:55 >
# 5
I also have issues with App Server (admittedly an old version). I recall googling an ant script someone had put together for Tomcat. Even just using the export option to Tomcat adds only a few seconds onto the deploy. Why not explore one of these possibilities?
# 6
My colleague tried the Netbeans + WVP + Tomcat. It seems to be faster than JSC. The memory footprint is smaller too. Since it is in 'technology preview' status, I don't want to use that for my production. Anyone having trouble with netbeans+wvp so far?
# 7
Ok. Further finding. In netbeans + WVP + Tomcat, I can use the Oracle's jdbc driver and still get the metadata correctly. In JSC2U1, if you use oracle's jdbc, you won't get the table's field, hence it is difficult to visually design a table component. But, in NETBEANS, those metadata is THERE. OJDBC14.jar is faster than jsc's/sun's jdbc driver to oracle.
Also Tomcat is definitely use less memory than Sun's app server.
I think, I will move to the NETBEANS+WVP sooner than I thought!
# 8
> Also Tomcat is definitely use less memory than Sun's
> app server.
Isn't it somewhat unfair to compare Sun's app server with Tomcat? Sun's is a full-blown J2EE app server while Tomcat is a servlet container. I'd expect Tomcat to have less overhead because it is a smaller product with less functionality. That's not saying it's bad -- Tomcat is a great solution if that's all you need.
# 9
I agree it is unfair to compare the Sun app server and Tomcat. But what I need for development is not a full blown J2ee app server on my PC. That is the point. A cut down server is all that is required.
I have done all the tweaks suggested, (I have been using it a year, so I have tried them all) and I still have to shut down from task manager after a while.
I really hope NetBeans5 with JSC2 embedded solves all the problems, not only in the IDE functionality ie refactoring, sluggishness, etc but ease of development and less frustration !!
Regards,
LOTI
# 10
What exactly, in a standard JSC application, requires anything more than Tomcat? IE at what point or feature set will we need anything more than a basic Servlet container?
# 11
> I agree it is unfair to compare the Sun app server and Tomcat. But what I
> need for development is not a full blown J2ee app server on my PC. That
> is the point. A cut down server is all that is required.
Also agree with that, but please be aware that this argument is different than "give me something that works" or the fact of Sun supplying an "undecent" Application Server.
Good luck.
Antonio.
# 12
All I want is the ability to do at least one hours piece of work without having to kill the appserver and Creator. I don't think it is asking too much.
Coming from a background over the last 10 years of using GUI RAD tools, I expected too much from JSC when it was launched. Although SUN did hype it as the best thing since sliced bread!! Time has shown a different story.
It was very niave of me to think JSC could achieve the same of ease of use when putting together a web app. I have championed this product up until now and other of my "low level hmtl" colleagues have expressed an interest. They would laugh if they started using JSC. It is simply not commerical or professional standard as compared to Eclipse, etc.
Until the pefromance issues of JSC are sorted out, I will remain unconvinced about the products viability in the "real life" world.
And before anybody gets on a rant, I am trying to write a fairly sized commercial project of which I am getting well paid. Hence the frustration. This is not some novice putting together a hello world.
Regards,
LOTI
