Communications Express and session-timeout

I'm not sure if asking a question about session-timeout is appropriate on the Messaging server forum, if it's not, please direct me to the proper forum.

Our users have been complaining of being timed out on a Communications Express (CE) while their session is still active. By that I mean they could be typing a message and their session will time out.

I found the setting in /var/opt/SUNWuwc/WEB-INF/web.xml:

<session-timeout>600</session-timeout>

or ten minutes.

Any explanation why active session are being timed out or any other values I should check?

Thanks

-- Bob

[633 byte] By [rkbunca] at [2007-11-26 11:58:17]
# 1

> I'm not sure if asking a question about

> session-timeout is appropriate on the Messaging

> server forum, if it's not, please direct me to the

> proper forum.

>

> Our users have been complaining of being timed out on

> a Communications Express (CE) while their session is

> still active. By that I mean they could be typing a

> message and their session will time out.

>

> I found the setting in

> /var/opt/SUNWuwc/WEB-INF/web.xml:

>

> <session-timeout>600</session-timeout>

>

> or ten minutes.

>

> Any explanation why active session are being timed

> out or any other values I should check?

>

> Thanks

>

> -- Bob

Please check:

http://forum.sun.com/jive/thread.jspa?forumID=15&threadID=48724

Ram

ram@qedcommx at 2007-7-7 12:19:15 > top of Java-index,E-Mail, Calendar, & Collaboration,Sun Java System Messaging Server...
# 2

Ram,

Thanks for your speedy response. Here are the timeout values from configutil:

service.http.idletimeout = 600

service.http.resourcetimeout = 900

service.http.sessiontimeout = 7200

From the forum post you referenced it looks likke the idletimeout values is for 600 minutes or 10 hours. This doesn't explain why our users are being timedout when active?

Any ideas?

rkbunca at 2007-7-7 12:19:15 > top of Java-index,E-Mail, Calendar, & Collaboration,Sun Java System Messaging Server...
# 3

Are you using Access Manager? and UWC?

If this is correct please do...

The correct answer is...

Log into your Sun Java System Identity Server... go to the Service Configuration tab... select Session... then in the right-hand window set your desired Maximum Session Time and Maximum Idle Time in minutes. I picked 600 minutes (10 hours) and 480 minutes (8 hours). I may bring these numbers down later if resources become an issue.

You can review this by selecting the Current Sessions tab to see who's logged in and with what timeouts. No service restart is necessary. So... UWC timeouts are controlled by the Identity Server.

Ram

ram@qedcommx at 2007-7-7 12:19:15 > top of Java-index,E-Mail, Calendar, & Collaboration,Sun Java System Messaging Server...
# 4
If you would provide the version information we always ask for, I might be able to offer you a patch.There was a recent patch for the Access Manager, which broke the UWC session. The symptoms are as you describe.Getting the latest Messaging patch and UWC patch will fix it.
jay_plesset at 2007-7-7 12:19:15 > top of Java-index,E-Mail, Calendar, & Collaboration,Sun Java System Messaging Server...
# 5
Hi Jay,Thanks for your suggestion, and hope a patch is available.I'm not sure exactly how to get the versions you need to determine if we are at the correct maintenance level. When I run amadmin --version I see:Sun Java System Access Manager 7 2005Q4
rkbunca at 2007-7-7 12:19:15 > top of Java-index,E-Mail, Calendar, & Collaboration,Sun Java System Messaging Server...
# 6
Best way to get a Messaging Server version:imsimta versionthe patch (assuming sparc) 118207-58 messaging core,118540-21 UWC
jay_plesset at 2007-7-7 12:19:15 > top of Java-index,E-Mail, Calendar, & Collaboration,Sun Java System Messaging Server...
# 7

# ./imsimta version

SunOS uwc 5.10 Generic_118833-18 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-V240

Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)

libimta.so 6.2-6.01 (built 11:20:35, Apr 3 2006)

It looks like we are running with the following levels of those patches:

Patch: 118207-38 Obsoletes: 116800-06, 116568-99, 117781-01, 118002-02 Requires: Incompatibles: Packages: SUNWmsgin, SUNWmsgen, SUNWmsglb, SUNWmsgco, SUNWmsgmt, SUNWmsgst, SUNWmsgmp, SUNWmsgwm, SUNWmsgmf

and

Patch: 118540-37 Obsoletes: 117287-99, 117819-13, 119156-07 Requires: Incompatibles: Packages: SUNWuwc

rkbunca at 2007-7-7 12:19:15 > top of Java-index,E-Mail, Calendar, & Collaboration,Sun Java System Messaging Server...
# 8
Yes. You should be upgrading to 118207-58. It's on sunsolve, released.
jay_plesset at 2007-7-7 12:19:15 > top of Java-index,E-Mail, Calendar, & Collaboration,Sun Java System Messaging Server...
# 9
I started downloading it as soon as I got your message.Thanks...I'll post the results after it's applied.
rkbunca at 2007-7-7 12:19:15 > top of Java-index,E-Mail, Calendar, & Collaboration,Sun Java System Messaging Server...
# 10

Hi Jay,

Just checked and found that we are running 118207-51, on the server which runs Communications Express. The server I mentioned in my previous message is running our calendaring and messaging servers. I'm assuming that both of the servers should be running the same version of the patch, right?

Also I searched the README for 118207 and there are a lot of bugids that mention timeout. I was curious which bugid references the problem we are experiencing? It's not obvious from the often terse bug description.

Thanks.

rkbunca at 2007-7-7 12:19:15 > top of Java-index,E-Mail, Calendar, & Collaboration,Sun Java System Messaging Server...
# 11

Hi Jay,

Just checked and found that we are running 118207-51, on the server which runs Communications Express. The server I mentioned in my previous message is running our calendaring and messaging servers. I'm assuming that both of the servers should be running the same version of the patch, right?

Also I searched the README for 118207 and there are a lot of bugids that mention timeout. I was curious which bugid references the problem we are experiencing? It's not obvious from the often terse bug description.

Thanks.

rkbunca at 2007-7-7 12:19:15 > top of Java-index,E-Mail, Calendar, & Collaboration,Sun Java System Messaging Server...
# 12

Hi,

The biggest cause of customer timeout issues was:

6442580 XFILE 6436876: UWC session timeouts using latest AMSDK 7.0

This is most likely the issue you are hitting. It is usually best to keep servers at even patch releases especially if there are fixes which have interdependent changes e.g. having to upgrade calendar server to satisfy a CE or Outlook Connector bug.

Regards,

Shane.

shane_hjorth at 2007-7-7 12:19:15 > top of Java-index,E-Mail, Calendar, & Collaboration,Sun Java System Messaging Server...