Connecting an Ultra 5 to a flat panel Acer VGA monitor

I have an Ultra 5 - the original Sun monitor failed.

The original Sun monitor had a 13W3 male connector which was connected to a 13W3 female to HD15 male cable (11 pin).

I purchased a flat panel Acer, VGA (15 pin) monitor to replace the Sun monitor.

The Ultra 5 does not play well with the new monitor. Do I need a special cable?

Thanks

[367 byte] By [Honor_Int-53] at [2007-11-26 9:36:15]
# 1
depending on which OS you are running, you will most likely need to change the refresh rate for the frame buffer... at the command line level...haroldkarl
haroldb at 2007-7-7 0:28:12 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Workstations - General Discussion...
# 2
Running Solaris 5.9.
Honor_Int53 at 2007-7-7 0:28:12 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Workstations - General Discussion...
# 3

You need to change the screen resolution, that's all.

It's done with a command-line utility.

You will need to run that utility as root user.

Is this Ultra-5 a part of any sort of network?

In other words, can you telnet into it from another system?

I ask that because I am presuming that you have no usable output

on any monitor at the moment, and that the only connector is the onboard HD15 port.

You also need to tell us what resolutions can be used by that Acer monitor.

Is there any special native resolution? Is it a CRT or a LCD ?

I hope it can comfortably run at 1024x768 at some vertical refresh rate,

because that's about the highest you're going to get

from the onboard chipset if you hope for anything more than 256 colors.

Telnet into it, su to root, and run:

# m64config -prconf <enter>

then paste the entire output back to this thread.

rukbat at 2007-7-7 0:28:12 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Workstations - General Discussion...
# 4

Hello Honor_Int-53,

did you read the User's Guide/documentation as suggested in reply to your first post ?

http://forum.sun.com/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=98134&messageID=336051#33605 1

rukbat: Fix a yellow Post-It Review recent posts of user before wasting time to your monitor ;-)

Michael

MAALATFT at 2007-7-7 0:28:12 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Workstations - General Discussion...
# 5
Thanks, Michael.I'll need to do that more often.<smile>I now see they never returned to that first thread.This could be that same Ultra-5.Many of us try to help, but rarely learn whether we've actually solved anything.
rukbat at 2007-7-7 0:28:12 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Workstations - General Discussion...
# 6

Yes, the Ultra 5 is part of a network.

I am only able to boot the Ultra 5 with the Sun monitor.

Here is the output of the m64config command:

root@psa15>m64config -prconf

Hardware Configuration for /dev/fbs/m640

ASIC: version 0x7c004750

DAC: version 0x0

PROM: version 104

Card possible resolutions: 720x400x85, 640x480x60, 640x480x72, 640x480x75,800x600x56, 800x600x60, 800x600x72,

800x600x75, 1024x768x60,1024x768x70, 1024x768x75, 1280x1024x75,

1024x768x85, 800x600x85, 640x480x85, 1280x1024x60, 1152x900x66,

1152x900x76, 1280x1024x67,1600x1280x76, 1920x1080x72, 1280x800x76,1440x900x76,1600x1000x66, 1600x1000x76, 1920x1200x70,1280x1024x85,1280x1024x76, 1152x864x75, 1600x1200x75,1600x1200x60,1024x768x85, 800x600x75, 640x480x85,

1920x1200x60, 1920x1080x60,vga, svga, 1152, 1280, 800x600, 1024x768,1280x1024, 1152x900,1600x1280, 1920x1080, 1600x1000, 1920x1200,1600x1200

Monitor possible resolutions: 720x400x70, 720x400x85,640x480x60

640x480x67, 640x480x72, 640x480x75,800x600x56, 800x600x60

800x600x72, 800x600x75, 832x624x75,1024x768x87, 1024x768x60

1024x768x70, 1024x768x75, 1280x1024x75,1152x900x66,

1152x900x76,1280x1024x67, 1280x1024x76, 800x600x75, vga,

svga, 1152, 1280, 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1152x900

Possible depths: 8, 24

Current resolution setting: 1280x1024x76

Current depth: 8

The new monitor is an Acer A1717Abm, LCD multimedia monitor; resolution: 1280x1024; VGA-15 pin HD-Sub(HD-15).

When connecting the Acer monitor to the ULtra 5, it attempts to boot & displays the following:

SUN Ultra 5/10 UPA/CPI (ULTRA Sparc IIi 400MHZ), keyboard present

OpenBoot 3.31, 512 MB(50ns) memory installed, Serial ...

Ethernet address 8:0:20:fd:c5:60, Host ID ...

Rebooting with command: boot

Boot device: disk a File & args:

SunOS Release 5.9 Version generic...64 bit

Copyright 1983-2002 Sun MicroSystems, Inc

All rights reserved

Use is subject to license terms.

Checking: net

At this point, it repeats a message indicating to check the network cable

Differences:

The Sun monitor connects to the Ultra 5 via a 13W3 male cable which connects to a 13W3 female to HD15 (11 PIN )cable which in turn connects straight into the Ultra 5 HD15 port.

The Acer LCD monitor has a 15 pin HD15 male, which connects

to the Ultra 5's HD15.

Question: since the Sun cable going into the Ultra 5's HD15 port is a 11 pin HD15, does that mean that the Ultra 5 is expecting 11 pin HD15?

Should I buy an HD15 female to 13W3 male and connect it to the original (13W3 female to HD15 - 11 PIN male) cable that came with the Ultra 5?

Since I am unable to boot with the Acer monitor, I am unable to run the

m64config -prconf command; but the documentation indicates that the

resolution is 1280x1024.

Thanks for your help,

Frank

Honor_Int53 at 2007-7-7 0:28:12 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Workstations - General Discussion...
# 7

It is irrelevant whether you have a monitor attached.

You should expect to directly attach your new monitor to the Ultra-5.

No dongles, no cable adapters, no 'mickey-mouse' modifications.

Telnet into the U-5 from another system and run the command in text mode, as root user.

Then you reboot the U-5 for the changes to take effect.

( that's easier to do, than stopping and restarting X )

Review the man pages for the M64CONFIG command.

If it were me, the first thing to do is change the vertical refresh to whatever works, such as 60Hz.

Go through the LCD's documentation, as I hinted in my first response.

I have no clue as to what that monitor lists as a preferred resolution,

and I'm not going to research it, because you already have its manuals at hand.

Many LCD panels have historically run at 60Hz vertically, so as a guess

it might just be compatible enough to be usable on the LCD,

and that may be the end of this entire discussion.

Example syntax ...

# m64config-res 1280x1024x60

The man pages have a number of syntax examples in them.

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The Ultra-5/Ultra-10/SB100/SB150 onboard framebuffers have only 4MB of video RAM.

1280x1024 at 256 colors (8-bit) uses only about 1.25MB.

However 24-bit color on 1280 mode will exceed the video RAM available in your hardware

http://pcguide.com/ref/video/modesBuffer-c.html

You can stay with 1280 at 8-bit color, or you can

lower your resolution to something like 1024x768

and get 24-bit color out of that 4MB of RAM.

rukbat at 2007-7-7 0:28:12 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Workstations - General Discussion...
# 8
Thanks,I'll give it a shot!!!
Honor_Int53 at 2007-7-7 0:28:12 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Workstations - General Discussion...
# 9
Hi rukbat:You do not think the pin # in the HD15 cables matter?Thanks,
Honor_Int53 at 2007-7-7 0:28:12 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Workstations - General Discussion...
# 10

Nope.

The VGA port on the computer has whatever number of signal lines that its design requires.

The cable from your LCD screen has whatever its manufacturer wanted.

At bootup, the VGA framebuffer will attempt to probe or ping whatever

is connected ( monitor or projector or who-knows-what ),

and expect some sort of answer from that peripheral, with EDID information.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EDID

Even if the EDID info never comes back to the computer,

you use the M64CONFIG utility to force it to whatever configuration you choose.

That's why monitors do not need or use drivers.

There isn't anything to "drive".

Various OS's use simple EDID info in the form af an INF file.

rukbat at 2007-7-7 0:28:12 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Workstations - General Discussion...
# 11
Appreciate the info.Thanks,
Honor_Int53 at 2007-7-7 0:28:12 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Workstations - General Discussion...