3500 Enterprise

Hello,can you guys tell me if it possible to know which boards are installed on my 3500 without turning it off ?I have problems with serial ports and I'd like to buy a new clock board but I don't want to turn anything off....RegardsNick
[273 byte] By [ISIS_SpA] at [2007-11-26 9:19:10]
# 1

Begin with a verbose PRTDIAG, as root user.

# /usr/platform/sun4u/sbin/prtdiag -v

(If you are not in a scrollable window, you may need to pipe the output to 'more'.

If I recall corectly, the clockboard won't show in that output,

but everything else will be described.

Copy and paste the entire output back into this thread, if you need any additional feedback.

If you're going to be ordering the clockboard from Sun or an authorized reseller,

you will likely have no choice on whichever FRU is available.

The 501-5365 is probably the only that's stocked anymore, for this EOL platform.

[url=http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Systems/E3500/components.html]See the Systemboard section of the E3500 Component List[/url].

(You do plan on a shutdown when you replace that board, I hope ?)

rukbat at 2007-7-6 23:48:58 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Other Sun Hardware...
# 2

the board numbers should be... (I say SHOULD be) on the outside of the board... they are on most of my E4500 boards...

I don't think you could be able to replace a clockboard without powering the E3500 down anyway...

I can't imagine this computer being covered by a service contract... but stranger things have appeared in these forums... ((((can you say EBay?))))

I am just about to "play" with a E3500 here... should be fun!

let us know how it turns out!

haroldkarl

haroldb at 2007-7-6 23:48:58 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Other Sun Hardware...
# 3

Well,

for sure "one" reboot is what I planned !!!

The server is not covered by any contract and it is not used as a "production" server but there are some application I'd like to maintain on it.

Here is the prtdiag -v output command:

System Configuration: Sun Microsystems sun4u 5-slot Sun Enterprise E3500

System clock frequency: 84 MHz

Memory size: 1536Mb

========================= CPUs =========================

RunEcacheCPUCPU

Brd CPUModuleMHzMBImpl.Mask

- ---

71403364.0US-II2.0

91803364.0US-II2.0

========================= Memory =========================

Intrlv. Intrlv.

BrdBankMBStatusCondition SpeedFactorWith

-- - - - -- - -

70256ActiveOK60ns2-wayA

90256ActiveOK60ns2-wayA

911024ActiveOK60ns1-way

========================= IO Cards =========================

BusFreq

Brd Type MHzSlot NameModel

- - - -- -

1SBus250QLGC,isp/sd (block)QLGC,ISP1000U

1SBus251SUNW,hme SUNW,501-2919

1SBus253SUNW,hme

1SBus253SUNW,fas/sd (block)

1SBus2513SUNW,socal/sf (scsi-3)501-3060

3SBus250QLGC,isp/sd (block)QLGC,ISP1000U

3SBus251SUNW,hme SUNW,501-2919

3SBus252networkSUNW,sbus-gem

3SBus253SUNW,hme

3SBus253SUNW,fas/sd (block)

3SBus2513SUNW,socal/sf (scsi-3)501-3060

No failures found in System

===========================

No System Faults found

======================

Most recent AC Power Failure:

=============================

Thu Nov 24 05:05:17 2005

========================= Environmental Status =========================

Keyswitch position is in Secure Mode

System Power Status: Redundant

System LED Status:GREENYELLOWGREEN

NormalONOFFBLINKING

Fans:

--

UnitStatus

-

DiskOK

System Temperatures (Celsius):

BrdStateCurrent Min Max Trend

- ---

1OK353447 stable

3OK423953 stable

7OK373450 stable

9OK393653 stable

CLKOK353246 stable

Power Supplies:

SupplyStatus

1OK

3OK

5OK

PPSOK

System 3.3vOK

System 5.0vOK

Peripheral 5.0v OK

Peripheral 12vOK

Auxilary 5.0vOK

Peripheral 5.0v prechargeOK

Peripheral 12v prechargeOK

System 3.3v prechargeOK

System 5.0v prechargeOK

AC Power OK

========================= HW Revisions =========================

ASIC Revisions:

Brd FHC AC SBus0 SBus1 PCI0 PCI1 FEPS Board TypeAttributes

-- -- -- - - - --

1151122Dual-SBus-SOC+ 100MHz Capable

3151122Dual-SBus-SOC+ 100MHz Capable

715 CPU 100MHz Capable

915 CPU 100MHz Capable

System Board PROM revisions:

-

Board 1:FCODE 1.8.28 2000/12/20 12:22iPOST 3.4.28 2000/12/20 12:28

Board 3:FCODE 1.8.28 2000/12/20 12:22iPOST 3.4.28 2000/12/20 12:28

Board 7:OBP3.2.28 2000/12/20 12:24POST 3.9.28 2000/12/20 12:29

Board 9:OBP3.2.28 2000/12/20 12:24POST 3.9.28 2000/12/20 12:29

ISIS_SpA at 2007-7-6 23:48:58 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Other Sun Hardware...
# 4
To be honest,E-Bay would give me at least a "cheap" chance !!!My 3500 is quite old and I'm wondering if a 501-4946 would be ok.I guess I need to halt "the kid" and take a look inside ........the board references
ISIS_SpA at 2007-7-6 23:48:58 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Other Sun Hardware...
# 5

Yes, that 501-4946 clockboard would work fine for you.

The only difference between that and the other one I had mentioned,

was that the "4946" board does fewer cpu multiplier ratios.

It's unfortunate that your serial ports seem to be broken,

for there would be no reason to replace it.

You could replace your 336MHz modules with 400MHz procs and they'd work.

When you finally get the chance to power it down and open it up,

take the time to note EVERY part number -- boards, cpus, DIMMs, adapter cards.

The Sun System Handbook can get you quite a bit of info,

http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Systems/E3500/E3500.html

... including valid links to the system documentation.

There is also [url=http://www.sunshack.org/data/sh/2.1/infoserver.central/data/syshbk/Systems /E3500/E3500.html]this third-party web site[/url] that has other information.

rukbat at 2007-7-6 23:48:58 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Other Sun Hardware...
# 6
Do You know if it is possible to install any sort of graphic adapter on top of one of the boards I had, avoiding the change of the clock board ?
ISIS_SpA at 2007-7-6 23:48:58 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Other Sun Hardware...
# 7

Yes, you have what appears to be one available expansion slot.

Your PRTDIAG showed ...

================== IO Cards ==================

Bus Freq Brd Type MHz Slot Name Model

- - - -- -

1 SBus 25 0 QLGC,isp/sd (block) QLGC,ISP1000U

1 SBus 25 1 SUNW,hme SUNW,501-2919

1 SBus 25 3 SUNW,hme

1 SBus 25 3 SUNW,fas/sd (block)

1 SBus 25 13 SUNW,socal/sf (scsi-3) 501-3060

3 SBus 25 0 QLGC,isp/sd (block) QLGC,ISP1000U

3 SBus 25 1 SUNW,hme SUNW,501-2919

3 SBus 25 2 network SUNW,sbus-gem

3 SBus 25 3 SUNW,hme

3 SBus 25 3 SUNW,fas/sd (block)

3 SBus 25 13 SUNW,socal/sf (scsi-3) 501-3060

... so I/O board #1 seems to have slot #2 available.

(right-hand position of the board but for an E3500 that would be 'bottom' position).

You could install a TurboGX, or a TurboGXplus, or a Creator3D card into that spot.

[url=http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_pub/Systems/E3500/components.html#Graphic s]See compatible graphics cards in the SSH[/url]

My vote? [url=http://www.sunshack.org/data/sh/2.1/infoserver.central/data/syshbk/Devices /Graphics/GRAPH_TurboGXplus.html]TurboGXplus [/url]plain, simple, and can do a number of resolutions in 256 colors (8bit).

Good enough to just administer a system.

Then you'd need a DB13W3 dongle to adapt the video out shape to a VGA-compatible shape.

-

What is the actual damage to those serial ports?

What malfunction have you experienced, if there's no external damage?

rukbat at 2007-7-6 23:48:58 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Other Sun Hardware...
# 8

We used the serial ports as a console and also with some card readers (for special applications).

We had a couple of big thunderstorm that striked out those ports, especially the one connected, through a long wiring connection, to the card reader (2 ports....2 strike by lightning !!!).

We don't need the serials any more but ...

....no serial ....no console...

that's why the graphic adapter could be a good idea !

ISIS_SpA at 2007-7-6 23:48:58 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Other Sun Hardware...
# 9
We are currently using Solaris 2.7.Can You tell me if it is possible to use the hme adapter ?My system admin told me that is a very big mes with the driver because the NIC is not supported on this version of Solaris.
ISIS_SpA at 2007-7-6 23:48:58 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Other Sun Hardware...
# 10

Yes, the HighspeedMediaEthernet 10/100baseT port(s) can be used in Solaris 7.

Those E3xx0 through E6xx0 systems were successfully run

with Solaris 2.5.1, 2.6 and 2.7 for years before newer OS's appeared.

The hardware existed before the OS existed.

Plumb the interface(s) and rock-n-roll.

rukbat at 2007-7-6 23:48:58 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Other Sun Hardware...
# 11

Here I am again.

I'm actually working with the ge0 interface

This is what I did in order to use my hme NICs

ifconfig hme0 plumb

ifconfig hme0 inet 192.168.200.20 netmask 255.255.255.0 -trailers up

ifconfig hme0 ether 0b:00:20:9b:cc:a8

route delete -net 192.168.200.0 192.168.200.244

ifconfig hme1 plumb

ifconfig hme1 inet 192.168.200.21 netmask 255.255.255.0 -trailers up

ifconfig hme1 ether 06:00:20:9b:cc:a8

I have an Enterasys E1 switch on which I configured the right VLAN.

I have the link (led on switch are blinking) but this is what I got on /var/adm/messages:

Aug 11 09:26:47 ics3500 unix: SUNW,hme0: Link Down - cable problem?

Aug 11 09:26:49 ics3500 unix: SUNW,hme1: Link Down - cable problem?

Any idea that would help me ?

As explained on the previuos thread I can't reboot "easily"

No rock'n'roll at all....:-(

ISIS_SpA at 2007-7-6 23:48:58 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Other Sun Hardware...