Full Mail Backup and Migration from Netscape 4.7 to MS Outlook

In our network we are having 揝un Java System Messaging Server 2005 Q4?as the mail server running in Solaris 10. We have almost 600 users in this mail server. All the users are using Netscape 4.7 as their mail client. Almost 40-60% of the users are downloading the mails (deleting the mails in the server) from the mail server and only stored in their local inbox (inbox in their mail client). Others are storing their mails in the server itself. I have two issues in this scenario. Any suggestions or help will be really great;

1.I need to always have the complete mail backup (from the mail server as well as from each clients) of all the users, where;

a. At any point of time I must be able to restore all or specific mails (as per the users request) of all the users.

b. At any point of time I must be able to restore all or specific mails (as per the users request) of a group

c. At any point of time I must be able to restore all or specific mails (as per the users request) of a specific user.

2. I want to know the complete procedure to migrate from the Netscape 4.7 to MS Outlook 2003. I found that, we need to first export the mails to outlook express and then from outlook express to MS Outlook 2003. But this is not working 100% perfectly for all my users?mail clients. Most of my users are having 400 ?800 mails where I am always loosing 10 ?30% of mails during this migration process. So I need a reliable solution to do this migration without any mail lose.

Note that even if we are planning to migrate to MS Outlook 2003, I need the mail backup solution in Netscape 4.7 too (which I specified in the first point), because almost 10-20% of the users will be still using the Netscape 4.7

Thanks in Advance...

[1771 byte] By [kmrxinode] at [2007-11-26 10:11:35]
# 1

> In our network we are having 揝un Java System

> Messaging Server 2005 Q4?as the mail server running

> in Solaris 10. We have almost 600 users in this mail

> server. All the users are using Netscape 4.7 as their

> mail client. Almost 40-60% of the users are

> downloading the mails (deleting the mails in the

> server) from the mail server and only stored in their

> local inbox (inbox in their mail client). Others are

> storing their mails in the server itself. I have two

> issues in this scenario. Any suggestions or help will

> be really great;

>

>

> 1.I need to always have the complete mail backup

> (from the mail server as well as from each clients)

> of all the users, where;

>

> a. At any point of time I must be able to

> restore all or specific mails (as per the users

> request) of all the users.

>

> b. At any point of time I must be able to

> restore all or specific mails (as per the users

> request) of a group

>

> c. At any point of time I must be able to

> restore all or specific mails (as per the users

> request) of a specific user.

Well, um, how can you expect to be able to back up files that are located on user's personal systems? That's not really something I can help you with, from the Messaging Server's side.

Far better would be to encourage your users to use IMAP or Webmail, and always leave the messages on the server. That way, you can always restore from your server backups.

We provide "imsbackup" to do backups on a live server. "imsrestore" works quite well.

>

>

> 2. I want to know the complete procedure to migrate

> from the Netscape 4.7 to MS Outlook 2003. I found

> that, we need to first export the mails to outlook

> express and then from outlook express to MS Outlook

> 2003. But this is not working 100% perfectly for all

> my users?mail clients. Most of my users are having

> 400 ?800 mails where I am always loosing 10 ?30% of

> mails during this migration process. So I need a

> reliable solution to do this migration without any

> mail lose.

Far better to have your netscape users change to using IMAP, copy the messages from the local systems to your server, and then simply install Outlook.

Honestly, though, you must understand that Outlook isn't a well-behaved mail client. It has security issues, and can also send out mails that are not formatted correctly. Many other clients have problems receiving Outlook mails.

>

>

> Note that even if we are planning to migrate to MS

> Outlook 2003, I need the mail backup solution in

> Netscape 4.7 too (which I specified in the first

> point), because almost 10-20% of the users will be

> still using the Netscape 4.7

As long as the mail is on each user's computer, in Netscape's control, you're going to have a hard time getting to it to back it up.

>

>

> Thanks in Advance...

jay_plesset at 2007-7-7 1:58:26 > top of Java-index,E-Mail, Calendar, & Collaboration,Sun Java System Messaging Server...
# 2

Dear,

I dont have any previlege to change our scenario. This is how they are working. And i am pressurized to workout a workable solution for this scenario.

I know its hard to hae backup from each computers, and its easy to take the backup from the servers. But here we cannot insist users to do so. So i have to workout the solution based on this scenario

How to copy the downloaded messages from users inbox to the mail server. will it be the right and reliable way to do this?

kmrxinode at 2007-7-7 1:58:26 > top of Java-index,E-Mail, Calendar, & Collaboration,Sun Java System Messaging Server...
# 3

You're in a very bad place.

Its' been so long since I had Netscape 4.7 on anything, I no longer have any idea where it might store messages.

Backing up a bunch of files from various places on many systems will be a nightmare.

How about this:

Mr. user:We would like to offer you secure backup of your e-mail. However, in order to do that, you will need to leave your mail on our server, as we just cannot back up your desktop for you.

I don't know of any way for you to pull the messages from Netscape inbox to the server. Sorry.

jay_plesset at 2007-7-7 1:58:26 > top of Java-index,E-Mail, Calendar, & Collaboration,Sun Java System Messaging Server...
# 4

I am thinking a way to take the backup of all mails from the server (means before my users download the mails), something like a script which can monitor the root directory of the mail, and whenever a change or a new mail comes in the directory this script will found it out and replicate the same new mail to another hierarchy of mail directories (where users does'nt have any access, so the mails will be there at all time, until the mail administrator manually delete those mails). If i can manage to have a sperate hierarchy of mail directories as same as the current one, i can always backup the entire mails from this new hierarchy.

This is just an idea only, but i dont know whether this can be practically possible or not.

Any suggestions...... from the experts......

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kmrxinode

kmrxinode at 2007-7-7 1:58:26 > top of Java-index,E-Mail, Calendar, & Collaboration,Sun Java System Messaging Server...
# 5
search this forum for, "message-save-copy". this can archive a copy of each and every mail that comes in, that you can back up and archive.......Use cron, back it up on some schedule, and remove the files after backup.
jay_plesset at 2007-7-7 1:58:26 > top of Java-index,E-Mail, Calendar, & Collaboration,Sun Java System Messaging Server...