V240 & external tape drive...

Hi,

Another question: how do I let the OS know about

the newly added (after the initial install of Solaris)

tape drive? It shows me two (why that, btw, there's

only one?) in ALOM

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ok show-tapes

a) /<a href="mailto:pci&#64;1c" target="_blank">pci@1c</a>,600000/<a href="mailto:scsi&#64;2" target="_blank">scsi@2</a>,1/tape

b) /<a href="mailto:pci&#64;1c" target="_blank">pci@1c</a>,600000/<a href="mailto:scsi&#64;2" target="_blank">scsi@2</a>/tape

c) /<a href="mailto:pci&#64;1e" target="_blank">pci@1e</a>,600000/<a href="mailto:scsi&#64;3" target="_blank">scsi@3</a>,1/tape

d) /<a href="mailto:pci&#64;1e" target="_blank">pci@1e</a>,600000/<a href="mailto:scsi&#64;3" target="_blank">scsi@3</a>/tape

q) NO SELECTION

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but "devfsadm -c tape" doesn't create any device nodes

as far as I can tell...

Cheers,

Andrej

[1335 byte] By [netmanage] at [2007-11-25 22:48:26]
# 1
Try a "boot -r"....If a boot is not possible post the output of "cfgadm -lv". You can also try just a "devfsadm -Cv".The tape drive should show up in /dev/rmt/#
error at 2007-7-5 17:03:48 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 2

Hi,

And thanks for the quick response!

boot -r

was possible, the box is only in a pre-production

state at them moment.

Didn't solve the issue, though, still no nodes in /dev/rmt/

Here's the output of

<div class="pre"><pre>/# cfgadm -lvAp_Id ReceptacleOccupantCondition InformationWhen Type BusyPhys_Idc0connectedconfiguredunknownunavailable scsi-busn/devices/pci@1e,600000/ide@d:scsic1connectedconfiguredunknownunavailable scsi-busn/devices/pci@1c,600000/scsi@2:scsic2connectedunconfigured unknownunavailable scsi-busn/devices/pci@1c,600000/scsi@2,1:scsic3connectedunconfigured unknownunavailable scsi-busn/devices/pci@1e,600000/scsi@3:scsic4connectedunconfigured unknownunavailable scsi-busn/devices/pci@1e,600000/scsi@3,1:scsiusb0/1 emptyunconfigured okunavailable unknownn/devices/pci@1e,600000/usb@a:1usb0/2 emptyunconfigured okunavailable unknownn/devices/pci@1e,600000/usb@a:2</pre></div>

Cheers,

Andrej

netmanage at 2007-7-5 17:03:48 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 3

I can't explain why it sees 2 drives but try this

cfgadm -c configure c2

cfgadm -c configure c3

From the output it looks like there is something hanging out there but they are "unconfigured". Using the above commands should probe the scsi bus and attempt to configure them.

What OS and what type of tape drive? Patch level?

error at 2007-7-5 17:03:48 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 4

<table border="0" align="center" width="90%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td class="SmallText"><b>error wrote on Wed, 07 December 2005 16:29</b></td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

I can't explain why it sees 2 drives but try this

cfgadm -c configure c2

cfgadm -c configure c3

From the output it looks like there is something hanging out there but they are "unconfigured". Using the above commands should probe the scsi bus and attempt to configure them.

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After running those cfgadm -lv still gives me this:

<div class="pre"><pre># cfgadm -lvAp_Id ReceptacleOccupantCondition InformationWhen Type BusyPhys_Idc0connectedconfiguredunknownunavailable scsi-busn/devices/pci@1e,600000/ide@d:scsic1connectedconfiguredunknownunavailable scsi-busn/devices/pci@1c,600000/scsi@2:scsic2connectedunconfigured unknownunavailable scsi-busn/devices/pci@1c,600000/scsi@2,1:scsic3connectedunconfigured unknownunavailable scsi-busn/devices/pci@1e,600000/scsi@3:scsic4connectedunconfigured unknownunavailable scsi-busn/devices/pci@1e,600000/scsi@3,1:scsiusb0/1 emptyunconfigured okunavailable unknownn/devices/pci@1e,600000/usb@a:1usb0/2 emptyunconfigured okunavailable unknownn/devices/pci@1e,600000/usb@a:2</pre></div>

Wish I knew how to get into suns equivalent of the

scsi-controllers BIOS so I can see what the controller

thinks is attached ... :/

/me feels so stupid in this new world

<table border="0" align="center" width="90%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td class="SmallText"><b>error wrote on Wed, 07 December 2005 16:29</b></td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

What OS and what type of tape drive? Patch level?

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# uname -a

SunOS itchy 5.9 Generic_118558-11 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Fire-V240

Thanks for your help!

Cheers,

Andrej

netmanage at 2007-7-5 17:03:48 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 5

Andrej,

What kind of a tape peripheral?

Where are you attaching it to the V240?

This is beginning to sound like a LVD tape device, which would need the 375-3057 (X6758A) HBA, whose driver packages are NOT a part of Solaris.

OBP can see LVD devices but Solaris cannot build device instances until packages are added.

This 'behavior' has been discussed a few times in these forums, e.g.:

<a href="http://supportforum.sun.com/hardware/index.php?t=msg&amp;goto=5652" target="_blank"> http://supportforum.sun.com/hardware/index.php?t=msg&got o=5652</a>

Bill at 2007-7-5 17:03:48 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 6

Thanks for jumping in Bill!

It's a

Sun StorEdge DAT 72, Product ID SG-XTAPDAT72-R in a 1U-rack

and it's attached to a

Sun StorEdge PCI dual channel Ultra320, PID: SG-XPCI2SCSI-LM320

via the left channel (looking at the box brom the rear).

Cheers,

Andrej

netmanage at 2007-7-5 17:03:48 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 7

This is what I saw in VERY QUICK glances through the Sun System Handbook.

>>>all these links require Sunsolve login<<<

The tape peripheral is supposedly LVD/SE

<a href="http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_private/Devices/Rmvbl_Media_Options/RMVB L_OPT_StorEdge_DAT72.html" target="_blank"> http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_private/Devices/Rmvbl_Media _Options/RMVBL_OPT_StorEdge_DAT72.html</a>

... so far, so good. It may even work from the V240's integrated SCSI connector, try it!

===================================

The card requires minimum distros of Solaris, plus software installed via patches.

<a href="http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_private/Devices/SCSI/SCSI_PCIX_Dual_Ultr a320.html" target="_blank"> http://sunsolve.sun.com/handbook_private/Devices/SCSI/SCSI_P CIX_Dual_Ultra320.html</a>

Quoting:

Operating System Notes

1. The minimum operating system is Solaris 8 7/03, Solaris 9 12/03, or Solaris 9 8/03 x86.

2. Install Solaris 8 mpt driver patch 115275 and raidctl utility patch 115274.

3. Install Solaris 9 mpt driver patch 115665 and raidctl utility patch 115667.

4. The mpt driver is included in Solaris 8 2/04 and Solaris 9 4/04.

5. Solaris 10 is supported on both x86 and SPARC platforms.

References

1. Dual Ultra320 SCSI Host Adapter Installation Guide, <a href="http&#58;&#47;&#47;sunsolve.sun.com/data/817/817-5827/pdf/" target="_blank">817-5827.</a>

2. Dual Ultra320 SCSI Host Adapter Release Notes, <a href="http&#58;&#47;&#47;sunsolve.sun.com/data/817/817-5828/pdf/" target="_blank">817-5828.</a>

(those last two links <i>might</i> be public documents)

My sense is an incomplete software configuration, just as commonly happens with the X6758A adapter.

Move the cable from the card, down to the onboard connecter. Any difference?

Bill at 2007-7-5 17:03:48 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 8
I think you got it Bill.Netmanage - You need to install the drives for the SCSI card. They were not supplied with Solaris 8 & 9.Sorry for the run around.
error at 2007-7-5 17:03:48 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 9
Glad to help, Lee.We'll see how this proceeds with his development system.We'll work this one, together.
Bill at 2007-7-5 17:03:48 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 10

B.T.W.

That tape device is an unmodified HP product.

(Well, the bezel now has Sun's name on it.)

The Sun System Handbook page links directly to HP's website.

<a href="http://h18006.www1.hp.com/products/storageworks/dat72/index.html" target="_blank"> http://h18006.www1.hp.com/products/storageworks/dat72/index. html</a>

and its support page...

<a href="http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Home.jsp?locale=en_US 8;amp;prodTypeId=12169&amp;prodSeriesId=316234" target="_blank"> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Home.jsp?lo cale=en_US&prodTypeId=12169&prodSeriesId=316234</a>

Bill at 2007-7-5 17:03:48 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 11

Thanks to both of you guys, did the drivers, am

currently downloading the SOlaris patches.

I will keep you posted on my progress, and maybe

(with a little luck and lots of snooping here on the

forums) I won't be quite as stupid with the gear in

a year from now ;}

Cheers,

Andrej

netmanage at 2007-7-5 17:03:48 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 12

Update ...

115667-03 seems to be included in 9 04/05

118558-18 installed successfully

Rebooted the box yet again with boot -r,

ran

cfgadm -c configure c2

cfgadm -c configure c3

again, but there's still no /dev/rmt ...

I haven't tried the internal adapter yet but am about

to, not much else left to try :/

And a question that doesn't really belong here, but maybe

someone can help me anyway:

I'm trying to get the Sun Patch Manager; when I go

to the downloads on sun.com it says to go to sun-solve

to d/l the Solaris 9 version; on sunsolve I get told to

find it on sun/download ... anyone got a working link

for me handy?

[/edit]

Cheers,

Andrej

netmanage at 2007-7-5 17:03:48 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 13

There is a time-zone difference between you and us.

Final resolution on this tape device issue may take some time.

-

Sorry, cannot help with the Patch Manager utility.

Don't use it.

... and considering the number of postings throughout all of these other forums...

<a href="http://forum.sun.com/index.jspa" target="_blank">http://forum.sun.com/index.jspa</a>

... wherein people are having frustrations with it ...

<a href="http://forum.sun.com/forum.jspa?forumID=275" target="_blank">http://forum.sun.com/forum.jspa?forumID=275</a>

I will continue to use the old tedious manual method of maintaining systems.

Bill at 2007-7-5 17:03:48 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 14
If the driver was already in Solaris 9 04/05...Let try this.boot cdrom -swThis will let us understand if it is hardware or software.
error at 2007-7-5 17:03:48 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 15
Which CD-ROM do you want me to use?Install, Disk 1 or 2?Cheers,Andrej
netmanage at 2007-7-21 14:26:55 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 16

<table border="0" align="center" width="90%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td class="SmallText"><b>Bill wrote on Thu, 08 December 2005 07:52</b></td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

There is a time-zone difference between you and us.

Final resolution on this tape device issue may take some time.

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No worries, another week or so will be fine, I'm sure :}

<table border="0" align="center" width="90%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td class="SmallText"><b>Bill wrote on Thu, 08 December 2005 07:52</b></td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

Sorry, cannot help with the Patch Manager utility.

Don't use it.

... and considering the number of postings throughout all of these other forums...

<a href="http&#58;&#47;&#47;forum.sun.com/index.jspa" target="_blank">http://forum.sun.com/index.jspa</a>

... wherein people are having frustrations with it ...

<a href="http&#58;&#47;&#47;forum.sun.com/forum.jspa?forumID=275" target="_blank">http://forum.sun.com/forum.jspa?forumID=275</a>

I will continue to use the old tedious manual method of maintaining systems.

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Heh - good one; manual mothod seems quite time-

consuming, but at least there's a chance to get things

right, eh? :)

netmanage at 2007-7-21 14:26:55 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 17
Use CD 1 of 2 and from the OK prompt typeboot cdrom -swor just boot cdrom -s ....The "w" comes from old school days.
error at 2007-7-21 14:26:55 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 18
Right ... so now I did connect it to the externalport of the on-board adapter, and after a boot -r there's still no change. I'm starting tothink that maybe the tape-drive is faulty.Cheers,Andrej
netmanage at 2007-7-21 14:26:55 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 19

... any opportunity to check it against a completely different system?

Since it is a re-branded HP device, perhaps a PC could be used.

(Yeah, try finding a PC with a SCSI card ....)

<img src="images/smiley_icons/icon_smile.gif" border=0 alt="Smile">

... but then again, that Sun HBA is based upon a LSI chipset.

Hmmmmm.

Bill at 2007-7-21 14:26:55 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 20

<table border="0" align="center" width="90%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td class="SmallText"><b>Bill wrote on Thu, 08 December 2005 16:43</b></td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

... any opportunity to check it against a completely different system?

Since it is a re-branded HP device, perhaps a PC could be used.

(Yeah, try finding a PC with a SCSI card ....)

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Shouldn't be that hard, she's sitting in a server-room,

jam-packed with Linux & Windows servers, most of which

DO have SCSI controllers.

<table border="0" align="center" width="90%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td class="SmallText"><b>Bill wrote on Thu, 08 December 2005 16:43</b></td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

:)

... but then again, that Sun HBA is based upon a LSI chipset.

Hmmmmm.

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/me scratches his head ... eh?

netmanage at 2007-7-21 14:26:55 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 21
Did booting from CDROM show any results?
error at 2007-7-21 14:26:55 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 22

<table border="0" align="center" width="90%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td class="SmallText"><b>error wrote on Thu, 08 December 2005 17:02</b></td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

Did booting from CDROM show any results?

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Sorry, and no, no change. She just doesn't want to know

anything about the tape drive. Now, does SCSI on Sparcs

behave differently from other architectures? Back in the

day I learnt to turn external devices on before the computer,

does this still hold true here?

Cheers,

Andrej

netmanage at 2007-7-21 14:26:55 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 23

Earlier in this thread I provided links to HP's site, for the tape drive.

In addition to that, the link to the 817-5827 manual is a freely available PDF for the SCSI card.It is a LSI22320 adapter, based on the 53C1030 chipset.

I just peeked through the documentation again and the word 'termination' jumped out, this time.I cannot remember if the drive self-terminates, or if you must have a terminating dongle attached.

That's is what we may have missed; a terminator

-

The drive's documentation is only available at HP. See the above links.

That SCSI card is: <a href="http://lsilogic.com/products/scsi_hbas/lsi22320_r.html" target="_blank">http://lsilogic.com/products/scsi_hbas/lsi22320_r.html</a >

... except for the RAID capability in a Sun SPARC system.

This generation card can be thought of as simply a path to the peripheral, same as an IDE interface.No more peculiar configuration, as they auto-configure, now-a-days about the same way as IDE.

You could consider opening a service case, directly back to Sun, and get a Storage Support Engineer to review everything you've done.

Bill at 2007-7-21 14:26:55 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 24

<table border="0" align="center" width="90%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td class="SmallText"><b>Bill wrote on Thu, 08 December 2005 19:18</b></td></tr><tr><td class="quote">

Earlier in this thread I provided links to HP's site, for the tape drive.

In addition to that, the link to the 817-5827 manual is a freely available PDF for the SCSI card.It is a LSI22320 adapter, based on the 53C1030 chipset.

I just peeked through the documentation again and the word 'termination' jumped out, this time.I cannot remember if the drive self-terminates, or if you must have a terminating dongle attached.

That's is what we may have missed; a terminator

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I'm getting frustrated :/ ... the links to the manuals for the

tape-drive come back with a 404 and HPs sincere apology.

The back of the box doesn't suggest that it requires any

termination, it has two SCSI channels, both equipped with

a little ID selector (hence not for chaining, ergo no termination)

and no switches for termination, either.

Btw, I *did* try both available channels.

Cheers,

Andrej

netmanage at 2007-7-21 14:26:55 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 25
OK, now I'm thoroughly confused ... I just swappedthe ports on the back of the tape again, and this time it was picked up ... so, problem solved, no ideahow, or why... thanks for everyones patience andsupport :}
netmanage at 2007-7-21 14:26:55 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...
# 26

Happy to hear you are functional.

Don't spend too much time worrying about what may have been overlooked.

I hope we were of some small help.

I just attempted a direct click on my earlier links,

both the HP.Com links and the PDF document links.

I happen to be using Firefox.

Each of them were successful and opened their own new browser window with the proper info.

I then tried each with a right-mouse-click and an "open in a new window".

Again, they worked for me.

(You may have just seen some temporary DNS issue)

Anyhow, here they are, again:

<a href="http&#58;&#47;&#47;h18006.www1.hp.com/products/storageworks/d at72/index.html" target="_blank">HP StorageWorks DAT 72 SCSI Tape Drive </a>

<a href="http&#58;&#47;&#47;h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/ Home.jsp?locale=en_US&amp;prodTypeId=12169&amp;prodSeriesId=316234" target="_blank">HP DAT72 drive support page</a>

--

1. Dual Ultra320 SCSI Host Adapter Installation Guide, <a href="http&#58;&#47;&#47;sunsolve.sun.com/data/817/817-5827/pdf/" target="_blank">817-5827</a>.

2. Dual Ultra320 SCSI Host Adapter Release Notes, <a href="http&#58;&#47;&#47;sunsolve.sun.com/data/817/817-5828/pdf/" target="_blank">817-5828</a>.

Bill at 2007-7-21 14:26:55 > top of Java-index,Sun Hardware,Servers - General Discussion...