[iPlanet-JATO] Re: question on JATO

Hi Syam--

> Your assumption is correct. My application is storing in

> NDUserSession.

Cool.

> Actually I thought of doing this in the following way to avoid

> caching.Extend a class from DataSetModelExecutionContext, which will

> have the extra attribute of type Keys.

>

> This Object will be passed in as a parameter to Model's retrieve()

> method.The retrieve method() will use the passed in Keys(received

> through passed in Context) in the Mainframe Call. Before returning

> from the call, it will Modify the Context object with the Keys to be

> used in the Next call. ViewBean will store this context object as a

> pagesession object and will retrieve in case of NextSet request.

This is essentially what I was going to suggest after you described how the

MQ data retrieval works. This is exactly the kind of behavior and extension

the execution contexts are intended to support. I'm glad that came through,

since I don't think we explained it at all! It seems that all that is

required is that the MQ message limit be the same as the maxDisplay limit

for the tiled view displaying the data, and your Key objects should line up

with the display.

As for doing First, it seems that you could just ignore using an existing

key, and the server would return data from the beginning of the result set.

Last is a bit more difficult, in that you seem to suffer from the same

problem we have in JDBC: you don't know the ultimate result set size

beforehand, so you have to retrieve all the data and then back up X number

of rows. The problem even with this is that you may not have a way to

retreive a Key object that can be used for backward navigation.

In fact, isn't this a problem with backward navigation in general? How are

you planning on getting around this for the Prev button? Would you need to

store the list of keys you used to iterate forward?

> I am assuming this approach works fine for Next and Previous with

> extra overhead of making MQCalls in every request. When it comes to

> Last/First it fails.

In general, I would think the incremental MQ calls would be far more

efficient. For instance, in the scenario you outlined in your prior

message, you'd always retrieve all of the result set, making a calls to MQ

for each portion of the result set. Instead, with this new technique, you

would spread out the calls to MQ over several requests, and wouldn't need to

retrieve the full result set if someone found the data they're looking for

before the end of the data. So, I would say the new technique is far less

overhead.

Todd

[2879 byte] By [Guest] at [2007-11-25 9:26:08]
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Hi Todd,

> Last is a bit more difficult, in that you seem to suffer from the

same

> problem we have in JDBC: you don't know the ultimate result set size

> beforehand, so you have to retrieve all the data and then back up X

number

> of rows. The problem even with this is that you may not have a way

to

> retreive a Key object that can be used for backward navigation.

>

> In fact, isn't this a problem with backward navigation in general?

How are

> you planning on getting around this for the Prev button? Would you

need to

> store the list of keys you used to iterate forward?

I am planning to have the list of Keys as a page session variable and

different page session variables for prev,current,next to store the

indexes into the list of Keys.

I want to do all this in a subclass, which extends from

RequestTiledViewBase. This new class, acts as the super class for all

application specific tiled views (which access MQ Data).

With this approach, still Last will have problems(like getting the

previous keys from Last ResultSet screen). Please let me know, if

there is a work around for last with the above approach ?

Please let me know, if you see any problems in case of prev/next.

regards,

syam.

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