when Sun is going to make a java processor

Hi:Anyone know when Sun is going to make the big step and take out a processor for Java.Like a transmeta crossue, that has the "Virtual Machine" at the processor level.it would help to the development of games in Java.
[246 byte] By [Perrunoa] at [2007-9-29 13:23:35]
# 1
They have.New sparcs do.
mlka at 2007-7-15 3:38:17 > top of Java-index,Other Topics,Java Game Development...
# 2
Now the question is, would you buy a Sparc Workstation just to play games like Half-Life 2?
TheDavida at 2007-7-15 3:38:17 > top of Java-index,Other Topics,Java Game Development...
# 3

A cheapo sparc is ~1K UKP, a mid ranged PC is ~1K UKP, and a mid range mac is ~1K UKP.

A sparc laptop is ~2K UKP, a mid ranged PC laptop is ~2K UKP, as is a Mac.

So, you would buy the system which runs the applications you want, the price diffrent is not that great[1].

[1] I'll ignore g/cs, and assume that you can throw a good one in a sparc. :-)

mlka at 2007-7-15 3:38:17 > top of Java-index,Other Topics,Java Game Development...
# 4

The great advantage of java is the platform independency. Code once, run anywhere (or was it code once, debug everywhere?).

Platform independency.

Got it?

Creating a Java Nonvirtual machine is quite interesting as an academic exercise. Do it in your lab. Do it as research. But leave it as an exercise!

Ragnvald_id2a at 2007-7-15 3:38:17 > top of Java-index,Other Topics,Java Game Development...
# 5

> The great advantage of java is the platform

> independency. Code once, run anywhere (or was it code

> once, debug everywhere?).

> Platform independency.

> Got it?

> Creating a Java Nonvirtual machine is quite

> interesting as an academic exercise. Do it in your

> lab. Do it as research. But leave it as an exercise!

eh? why not do it in reality if there are performance benefits?

also some ARM chips (which power mobile phones / GBA) can execute a subset of JVM instructions in hardware, and have software for other parts of the JVM (Jazelle is the technology name)

asjf

asjfa at 2007-7-15 3:38:17 > top of Java-index,Other Topics,Java Game Development...
# 6

if you can create a VM that is at the same level that the arquitecture processor, you could get the benefit from the speed from the processor and the benefits from the VM.

So it is a problem making it?

To expensive?

If Java wants to become a real fast plattform it would have to evaluate this.

transmeta crussoe do it so?

what do you think ?

Perrunoa at 2007-7-15 3:38:17 > top of Java-index,Other Topics,Java Game Development...
# 7

> So it is a problem making it?

Perruno, you have now been told it has been done, twice, with [url http://www.sparc.org/index.htm]Sparcs[/url] and [url http://www.arm.com/]ARM[/url] based processors.

> Platform inderpendce

How does having other platforms capable of running a JVM impear this?

The only problems with doing this is updating the byte code.

mlka at 2007-7-15 3:38:17 > top of Java-index,Other Topics,Java Game Development...