ok i wont bug them anymore

i guess they showed that they do care about what the community would like to see in these forums so i wont bug them anymore about the Water Cooler.Thanks ****, and sorry.Regards, Ivo
[210 byte] By [ivcho] at [2007-9-27 13:54:01]
# 1

They do care somewhat, but I don't think enough. They're too fixed on the idea "we tried it and it failed" instead of "what can we do to solve the problem?". It still doesn't explain why they won't listen to some ideas to solve the problem. I thought I was going about out correctly rather than complaining I was trying to brainstorm some ideas and it was deleted twice. I wouldn't be as bitter as I am now if they actually listened to what I had to say instead of deleting it right away. But that's what happens, at least give us ONE off topic thread, something for the community, but it's not going to happen. I'm happy that they brought us the gaming forum and listened to our ideas there (thank you), but I just can't agree with their other decision. Sort of the wrong place for this, but I can blame that one on you ;)

Ceranith at 2007-7-5 21:43:06 > top of Java-index,Other Topics,Java Game Development...
# 2

Game developers are defenatly second class citizens around the java camp. It's unfortunate too since we have quite a bit of client userbase that we could draw in with some very minor ( IMHO ) changes to the system.

Nothing against those pulling for us internal to sun ( thanks guys! you rock! ) but it's infuriating to see them fixing ee bugs and closing simple changes that would have made game development SOOO much easier ( real, accurate currentTimeMills() ).

Oh,

why start this forum here when www.javagaming.org has several sun techies and a very active community?

ericew at 2007-7-5 21:43:06 > top of Java-index,Other Topics,Java Game Development...
# 3
> Oh,> > why start this forum here when www.javagaming.org has> several sun techies and a very active community?Mainly because there's a strong community here, many wanted one here (including myself ;) instead of heading over there.
Ceranith at 2007-7-5 21:43:06 > top of Java-index,Other Topics,Java Game Development...
# 4
> Mainly because there's a strong community here, many> wanted one here (including myself ;) instead of> heading over there.here is always beter then therelets go there and bring them here
ajalali at 2007-7-5 21:43:06 > top of Java-index,Other Topics,Java Game Development...
# 5

Ivo, we do care. And for posting a public apology, I've dropped 25 Duke Dollars into your account as a peace offering.

****

> i guess they showed that they do care about what the

> community would like to see in these forums so i wont

> bug them anymore about the Water Cooler.

>

> Thanks ****, and sorry.

>

> Regards, Ivo

jdcforumadmin1 at 2007-7-5 21:43:06 > top of Java-index,Other Topics,Java Game Development...
# 6
Hey..That's NOT fair to the rest of us !!!Looks like we all got to start the bugging.. ?!!
sanjeevdg at 2007-7-5 21:43:06 > top of Java-index,Other Topics,Java Game Development...
# 7
> Ivo, we do care. And for posting a public apology,> I've dropped 25 Duke Dollars into your account as a> peace offering.> > ****> You must be kidding.
ChristianMenne at 2007-7-5 21:43:06 > top of Java-index,Other Topics,Java Game Development...
# 8
Ok, show of hands, how many people here have ACTUALLY responded to a particular question because of duke dollars? I reply to questions out of coutesy and community and from the look of responces in duke thready vs non-duke threads most others feel the same way too.
ericew at 2007-7-5 21:43:06 > top of Java-index,Other Topics,Java Game Development...
# 9
I have responded because of the dukedollars once. And I got that wristwatch!Hey ****, what about giving me an updated version of the wristwatch?Ragnvald
Ragnvald at 2007-7-5 21:43:06 > top of Java-index,Other Topics,Java Game Development...
# 10
> Ivo, we do care. And for posting a public apology,> I've dropped 25 Duke Dollars into your account as a> peace offering.> > **** that explains about ivicho's U turn. Shaking my head in disbelief.
mallepaddi at 2007-7-5 21:43:06 > top of Java-index,Other Topics,Java Game Development...
# 11
well it wasnt my intention to get dukes out of this and its not like im gonna win the most dukes award of the month but thank you anyways :)Regards, Ivo
ivcho at 2007-7-5 21:43:06 > top of Java-index,Other Topics,Java Game Development...