Frote installation... now com'on this can't be THAT hard!

ok guys... here's the deal. I had a bad experiece with Forte (CE) the first time around... as slow as molasses.... well i understand things are better... time to give java another shot. So I downloaded it. Went to install it, then remembered .. oh yeah.. needs a runtime. So I downloaded j2re-1_3_1_01-win.exe. Unpacked it. Dropped to a DOS prompt. Set my classpath. Attempted to install Forte... no go. Says it can not find "required library files".... intresting... I went to Control Panel>system (running w2kpro) and set path... pointing it and the classpath to C:\jre\bin

Still nothing... i'm all out here people... It can't be that difficult to install this thing!!!

[705 byte] By [pmenefee] at [2007-9-26 11:30:37]
# 1
To use Forte4J, you need to install the JDK not the JRE.
ICheng at 2007-7-2 0:45:40 > top of Java-index,Archived Forums,New To Java Technology Archive...
# 2
In any case, Forte hasn't speeded up that much. Try JBuilder.
asquithea at 2007-7-2 0:45:40 > top of Java-index,Archived Forums,New To Java Technology Archive...
# 3
Forte (EE) is a great Java IDE. Yes it may be slow at times but it offers a lot of features. Another great IDE is Visual Age for Java. JBuilder is great but it sure is a memory hog.
wgower at 2007-7-2 0:45:40 > top of Java-index,Archived Forums,New To Java Technology Archive...
# 4

So is Forte. Besides, memory is dirt cheap now, so go buy some. You shouldn't be developing with less than 256 meg anyhow, and my JBuilder runs happily consuming about 30meg (as long as help is not opened).

However, there are some issues concerning the compatability of current versions of JBuilder with JDK 1.4. Similar issues may exist with Forte, but they may already have been resolved, or are likely to be resolved faster, so I'm not sure a purchase of JBuilder is wise now, at least if you are planning to develop for 1.4.

asquithea at 2007-7-2 0:45:40 > top of Java-index,Archived Forums,New To Java Technology Archive...
# 5
I do run on 256 mb of ram. I think a major concern when buying any software development tool is the company itself and its financial viability. Certainly IBM and Sun are both financially viable companies and will be around for the long haul. Also they are leaders in the Java arena.
wgower at 2007-7-2 0:45:41 > top of Java-index,Archived Forums,New To Java Technology Archive...
# 6

I agree. I you have the memory (and if you are developing software professionally you bloody well should have *G*) then go for Forte/Netbeans. I have only had speed problems when I have used a machine with less than 256. I also don't like the code that JBuilder throws out when it auto-generates...but thats a personal thing I suppose.

DaithiMcGibon at 2007-7-2 0:45:41 > top of Java-index,Archived Forums,New To Java Technology Archive...