Anyone want to start a fully java Operating System? To beat XP?
I have a thought:
Why don't we developers start an open source, java-language operating system? Does anyone out there have a server on which you could put a website like JavaOpenSourceOS.org or something? Then let everyone contribute code? We could build a diagram of the diff. parts it would need, and have each part be its own project on the website. If Linux could do it, why can't we Java developers?
I'm in if anyone wants to join!
rpjava@hotmail.com
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6tr6tr] at [2007-9-26 2:59:13]
gokuson, this is piccolo.
I agree with you, but I am not suggesting sun work on an OS, just us developers. Hey, take Linux for example. Who would ever have guessed that it would have a larger share of the Server OS market than Microsoft?
And there's no garauntee that they'll never grab part of the reg. user OS either.
Think about this:
The internet is becoming a HUGE part of the regular computer user's life. More and more apps must be internet capable. In fact the big thing about XP is that it is more integrated with the web. Given Java's advances with Applets, it would be a perfect language to make an operating system that fully integrates with the web and remote-hosted apps, etc. Java web start is a great thing to build on with this too - as well as that company Sun Microsystems owns "star" something.
6tr6tr at 2007-6-29 10:55:02 >
How about you guys refine the security and resource management for this project first.
https://sourceforge.net/projects/jsh/
Note that the kernel team for JOS (JJOS) is virtually non-existent. A monumental amount of work has been put into hardware support for Win32 and Linux. That work will not be duplicated any time soon for JOS without a commercial effort. That's also why most of the commercial Java OSs are built on top of DOS (and why they have very limited device support).
However, a Pure Java desktop environment built on top of the Linux kernel is doable. MacOS X took a similar route.
Personally, I have philosophical problems with an OS that forces me to develop with a particular language. Therefore, I would be inclined to work on tight integration of the Java platform with the opensource GNOME desktop instead. GNOME is built using a language-agnostic distributed computing standard called CORBA. J2EE and J2SE already ship with CORBA integration tools. The GNOME environment is available for both Linux and Solaris, and Sun supports the GNOME development effort.
walpj at 2007-6-29 10:55:02 >
jsalonen wrote:
> Would anyone happen to know if CPUs that can run java byte code directly
> are being designed?
ARM has entered into a technology sharing agreement with Sun to produce hardware JVM implementations for the embedded market.
http://www.arm.com/armtech/jazelle?OpenDocument
And several features of Intel's Itanium make it a good host for a JVM.
http://developer.intel.com/design/ia-64/downloads/java_itanium.htm
walpj at 2007-6-29 10:55:02 >
Besides jsh (mentioned above), Echidna also handles managing multiple app instances in a single VM instance. http://www.javagroup.org/echidna/But both of these are Pure Java apps that provide now way to automatically start an app in a particular JRE version.
walpj at 2007-6-29 10:55:02 >
