Pentium 4 support

Hi,

As an IT professional I attempt to stay abreast of developments within the industry. Hence, the reasons for making my original post were entirely out of innocent, academic curiosity that was based on a conversation I had with a trusted friend. It was not intended to be in any way malicious or inflammatory, and I can only apologise for any offence I may have caused to members of this forum.

Adrian

amowat1 at 2007-6-29 8:58:08 >

> I heard a rumour recently that Java (both applets and

> applications) will not work on a Pentium 4 machine.

> This seems a little far fetched to me, and I was

> wondering if anyone out there has heard anything to

> prove or disprove it.

>

> Thanks very much

>

> Adrian

I got this from the following Intel link today:

http://developer.intel.com/design/processor/future/manuals/knownissue.htm

Known Software Issue(s)

CPUID detection for Intel Pentium 4 processor system:

Intel has identified that applications which use the Symantec Just in Time Compiler library file ("symcjit.dll" for Microsoft Windows* operating system and "symc_jlt.nlm" for Novell Netware* 5.1) may not run properly on Pentium 4 processor systems because the library does not properly identify the processor. The failure typically is that the affected application such as Oracle 8i, simply terminates. Under Microsoft Windows*, the properties of the DLL are: "Symantec Java! JustInTime Compiler Version 3.10.107 for JDK 1.2 Copyright (C) 1996-99 Symantec Corporation Dynamic Link Library file". DLLs older than this will also not work. To confirm the version you are using, select the DLL, right click on the selected DLL and select Properties, and then the Version tab. Intel encourages all Software developers to do the following immediately:

Check if your application(s) uses the Symantec Just in Time Library file Request an updated library file from your provider Test your application with the new library file on Pentium 4 processor system Ensure you have plans in place to provide application updates and address customer concerns

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he_todd at 2007-6-29 8:58:08 >

That would rule out "both applets and applications", since last I checked Symantec's JIT isn't used in the more recent Java releases.

And I expect Java 1.1 use will be on the decline soon enough, hopefully, since Microsoft aren't giving it away with their OS anymore. ;-p

trejkaz at 2007-6-29 8:58:08 >

Are you certain that it wasn't that Java didn't work for four Pentium computers? Or maybe that jdk1.4 can be distributed for Pentium 4 computers.. Or maybe that if four people use a Pentium 4, all with jdk1.4 installed for more than four hours, Java 1.4 will go no more. Or perhaps you'd realize that java is an interpreted language, and there really isn't any way to make it so it will absolutely not run on any machine.

-Jason Thomas.

thedracle at 2007-6-29 8:58:08 >

Yes, the problem is a real problem not rumors.

I've changed Mother Board and CPU and now with

the P4 i've an error every time that i try to run

some java program (also java console, java, javaw, jre etc

etc). Intel say that the problem is in the symcjit.dll

that try but not identify the CPU id. I don't know how

and who has the source of this library (symantec ?)

but the fix appear to be easy knowing the problem

so i hope that a new corrected version of symcjit.dll

come from somewhere ... All the application used by

banks and many other use java for signing the

operation.

thorz at 2007-6-29 8:58:08 >

Are you guys sure that this is the problem of the CPU .. not the problem on the OS? What I heard is, microsoft didn't packed the Java virtual machine with it's new OS Window XP. If you are using window XP and having trouble running java code... try downloading a copy of VM and install it. That should help.

Andy

andyvtec at 2007-6-29 8:58:08 >

I have four different jre-using applications on my computer (P4 w/ Windows NT sp6). Some work, some don't.

I ran FileMon to view the files accessed during the part that uses Java. The log shows the 1.1.6 JRE version of jrew.exe reading from symcjit.dll. The application successfully completes the operation.

Could there be certain functions within the symcjit.dll that work, and others that cause this problem. I find surprisingly little on Sun's web site about this bug. Any answers?

xman123 at 2007-6-29 8:58:09 >

I am running 1.2.2_005 jre on a pentium 4 and the java application crashes. Somewhere in this forum (this discussion thread) somebody deleted/renamed the SYMCJIT.DLL file and his java applications started to work. Does anybody know if this solution is supported by Sun or is the downloading and installation of 1.2.2_011 the only Sun supported solution to this problem?

vsmvsm at 2007-7-1 1:21:19 >

I've come across the same problems with Java Runtime Enviroment (JRE and JREW) using Orcale 8.0 on a P4 machine, where the Oracle interface would not load. After locating the Symantec Just In Time .dll file (symcjit.dll), I simply moved it to a temp directory, and the Oracle interface loaded fine.

Julius

judixon at 2007-7-1 1:21:20 >